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[CATHOLIC/FRIENDS CAUCUS] This dogmatic denunciation of dogma sponsored by a disorganized...
Insight Scoop ^ | 8/16/2010 | Carl Olson

Posted on 08/16/2010 3:26:49 AM PDT by markomalley

This dogmatic denunciation of dogma sponsored by a disorganized religious organization

A not-so-friendly Friends minister admits what it really means when people repeat the mindless, empty, and logic-challenged refrain: "I'm not into organized religion":
I have a "notion" that Anne Rice isn't "going it alone," but that she has had it with institutions that have replaced the Real Spirit of Christ with trappings of power and privilege and the heavy yoke of a creedalism that burdens one generation with the often discredited truth of previous ones. And if she is anything like the many students with whom I work and learn - who would describe themselves as deeply spiritual but not religious in the conventional sense - then she is in good company. Let's just hope they don't join together, form a "Church," and develop a dogma that, itself, will one day run counter to the fresh springs of the Spirit of Christ.
Interpretation: We really dislike the Catholic Church.

Glad we cleared that up.

He also says:
Nonconformist and radical reform traditions such as Friends have sought in their beginnings to bypass the accretions of the ages and return to "basic Christianity," the faith of the first disciples - what some would call "Gospel Christianity." The trouble is, the Christian scriptures themselves, describing the nature of that earliest form of the faith, are already products of the development of a "Church," of a set of dogmas and practices that developed in the decades after Jesus walked the earth. Quakers have historically sought to address this problem by appealing to the "Spirit of Christ" directly. Without creed, an ordained clergy, or a ritual other than centered, expectant waiting on the Spirit of Christ in worship, Friends appeal to their Inward Teacher, the Real Presence within, to Jesus Christ in all offices of prophet, priest, redeemer, saviour, and Lord.
So...the "non-organized religion" (so to speak) of Quakerism (1) has a "tradition," (2) possesses a set of dogmas and doctrines especially aimed at denouncing dogmas and doctrines, (3) touts a historical lineage of thought and teaching, and (4) holds to a creedless creed outlining adherence to belief in "the Spirit of Christ" and an "appeal to their Inward Teacher, the Real Presence within..."

Glad we cleared that up.


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1 posted on 08/16/2010 3:26:51 AM PDT by markomalley
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“But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in Spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship Him. God is a Spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth.” (John 5:23-24)


2 posted on 08/16/2010 4:10:36 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonyous)
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Some information about what a dogma really is:

[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Our Lady and Dogmas: Pondering the Assumption (Launch of Rosary Crusade)
[CATHOLIC/FRIENDS CAUCUS] This dogmatic denunciation of dogma sponsored by a disorganized...
Preserved Sinless from the Moment of Humanity (Dogma of the Immaculate Conception) [Catholic Caucus]

The Decline of Dogma and the Decline of Church Membership
The Three D's -- Dogma, Doctrine and Discipline [Ecumenical]
Radio Replies First Volume - Dogma and reason
Radio Replies First Volume - Development of dogma
Docility (on Catholic dogma and infallibility)

3 posted on 08/16/2010 6:30:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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