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To: Godzilla; svcw; Elsie; ejonesie22; colorcountry; Colofornian; BlueMoose; restornu; reaganaut; ...
John 1:1 is utterly fascinating and consistent with the oneness preached by the Orthodox in their version of theosis.

Was with God - This expression denotes friendship or intimacy. Compare Mark 9:19. John affirms that he was "with God" in the beginning - that is, before the world was made. It implies, therefore, that he was partaker of the divine glory; that he was blessed and happy with God. It proves that he was intimately united with the Father, so as to partake of his glory and to be appropriately called by the name God. He has himself explained it. See John 17:5; "And now, O Father, glorify thou we with thine own self, with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." See also John 1:18; "No man hath seen God at any time; the only-begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." See also John 3:13; "The Son of man, which is in heaven." Compare Philippians 2:6-7.

That's an interesting way to put it, no?

Yet, the Trinity is not a fundamental doctrine. It is not a doctrine of salvation, nor does the Bible ever state it is.

One should conclude then that believing in it or not is not essential to one's salvation.

638 posted on 09/12/2010 1:15:45 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
 
One should conclude then that believing in it or not is not essential to one's salvation.
 
Hello!
 
 
If you'd been paying attention; no one EVER said that it was!

John 6

28. Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29. Jesus answered,
"The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

 

(Of course; NOW you have to figger out just what is meant by 'one'.)

656 posted on 09/12/2010 1:55:31 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Yet, the Trinity is not a fundamental doctrine. It is not a doctrine of salvation, nor does the Bible ever state it is.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it kiddo.

663 posted on 09/12/2010 2:21:01 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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