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To: webboy45
ok, but then what answer would you have to:
1. Jesus saying to baptise in the NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and not in the nameS of .. or in the name of the Father and the name of the Son and the....?

2. If there are three personages -- are these 3 separate gods or ...?
22 posted on 08/14/2010 9:37:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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**1. Jesus saying to baptise in the NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and not in the nameS of .. or in the name of the Father and the name of the Son and the....?**

Matt. 28:19 is a command.
Picture yourself the Founder, President, and CEO of a company. You meet with your sales staff (that already knows your name), telling them to go out and reach new customers, saying, “The Founder, President, and CEO guarantees this product.”

Does your sales force go out and do this mentioning your name, or just your titles?

Jesus Christ did not fail to teach doctrine to his disciples. They understood that the NAME is JESUS.

The name of the Father:
Remember the birth of John the baptist? The neighbors and cousins started to call him Zacharias, after his father’s name. Jesus Christ said: “I come in my Father’s name..” John 5:43 That name would be JESUS.

The name of the Son:
(You all know this), “..shalt call his name JESUS....” The Son’s name is not “Son”.

The name of the Holy Ghost:
“..the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name..” John 14:26 Sent in who’s name? Who is talking in that passage? The Son, whose name is JESUS.

That is why the disciples knew exactly what they were doing when they baptised in the name of JESUS for the remission of sins.

The Christ declared that God is a Spirit. John 4:24

God is not a man, but dwelled in a perfect man (not as an animal that has no soul, but a man with all the attributes of a man). The Son grew weary, hungered, and also said “I thirst”; but as the God of heaven and earth, raised the dead, healed the sick and cast out devils. For “..God was IN Christ reconciling the world unto himself..’ 2 Cor. 5:19

Deity cannot die, but the Christ did, and was raised by God.

There’s been talk about how the trinity is so simple, yet is attempted to be proven by ‘persons’.

The Godhead IS simple: The Father is Spirit, and the Son is flesh.

Found in scripture: “God the Father”
NOT found in scripture: “God the Son” or God the Holy Ghost”. The “Son of God” and the “Spirit of God” are scriptural. The phrases are that way for a reason: Paul put it plainly to the saints in Ephesus. “One God and Father of all who is above all, and through all, and in you all”. Eph. 4:6

He has chosen his name Jesus to be the only “name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved”. Acts 4:12


77 posted on 08/15/2010 8:15:33 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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