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To: caww
re: Take a look at the Haitian Catholics who incorporate Voo-doo into their catholic faith.

What a few Haitians do, does not change the Catholic Faith, doctrines, and hierarchy. It is one. Don't get too caught up in looking for bad examples. There are few good examples of Christians in this world. FEW.

My years have taught me that the litmus test of a REAL Christian is marriage and birth control. Real Christians stay married till death and have as many children as God sends. They don't use birth control. If I see a person who calls themselves Christian and is divorced and remarried, I know that they are hypocrites. If I see a couple with no children because they use birth control, I know they have not God's Grace.

How many Christians like that do you know?

268 posted on 08/14/2010 1:13:23 PM PDT by verdugo
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To: verdugo
I see nothing in God's word that marriage nor birth control is evidence of one being a Christian or not. Rather a real Christian will evidence the fruit of His Spirit, additionally will believe that Christ's death, burial and resurrection paid the price for their sins when they come to Him. Our salvation as Christians is not dependent on marriage nor birth control....but on Christ's finished work alone.

You can certainly claim Catholics are one....but there is way more than a few in your memberships and churches which evidences otherwise....Thinking and saying you are one is very different than actually being one.

But I will say all who are Christians...in Christ Jesus...are one in the body of Christ just as it is written...no matter the church they attend... which even the catholic church agrees this is so.

Most all Catholics....these threads the exception... I have encountered definitely think a woman has the right to her own body and that to select abortion...as well as divorce and re-marriage. In fact those I have spoken with attend mass and church functions but do not believe their life choices are dependent on what Rome says...let alone the Bible. That is not to say there aren't Christians in the Catholic church for I do believe very well that there are. But my experiences with many is as stated here.

275 posted on 08/14/2010 5:11:03 PM PDT by caww
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