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How would anyone know if she really had a vision of God?
Context helps. Look here on page 178 at the bottom of the first paragraph: http://books.google.com/books?id=IPCwHOwX_BgC&pg=PA178&lpg=PA178&dq=julian+of+norwich+I+wanted+to+have+every+kind+of+pain,+bodily+and+spiritual,+which+I+should+have+if+I+died,+every+fear+and&source=bl&ots=Bavozcv6SD&sig=XdWj62cbrHPqFjCBjIq_w2P_cTs&hl=en&ei=ig1jTLz4O8L78AaprczWCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false
Here’s a page with links to the texts of Julian of Norwich’s revelations (as well as to articles about her:
http://home.infionline.net/~ddisse/julian.html
Saint Julian isn’t the first or the last to have this idea that suffering is a good thing for its own sake. While persons who believe this may be well-meaning, I don’t think this idea is biblically supported. Although Jesus did not directly address this topic, (IMO) he does seem to indicate that we shouldn’t be going out of our way to add more trouble to our lives than what comes about naturally from what we’re supposed to be doing. He told his disciples in Matthew 6:32: “Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.” That last sentence (IMO) means that each day brings enough troubles of its own, so why needlessly and artificially add to the troubles and suffering?
And in this he [Christ] showed me a little thing, the quantity of a hazelnut, lying in the palm of my hand, and to my understanding it was round as any ball. I looked upon it and thought: What may this be? And I was answered generally this way: It is all that is made. I marveled how it might last, for I thought it might fall into nothing because of its littleness. And I was answered in my understanding: It lasts and always shall, for God loves it; and so all things have being through the love of God.
Then to pray with fasting. It seems something has to be deprived in one sense to touch the Supernatural but to still stay in the natural. Their is a balance of suffering for the travail of birthing of souls. You can look at the apostles up to the modern day there is the constant history of suffering. It will be until His will be done. These wealth and prosperity charlatans go against this tradition of Saints. But in the end every tear will be wiped as promised in our Bibles. Praise Jesus Help us to endure to the end. Amen
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