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To: roamer_1; vladimir998
Here in Poland, the Poles call their priest "Ksiąz" which does not translate as father in any way.

The whole passage reads, "But you are not to be called ‘rabbi,’ for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called ‘masters,’ for you have one master, the Christ" (Matt. 23:8–10).

Rabbi = teacher. And yet Paul says "his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers" (Eph. 4:11).

And, when you call someone Teacher -- are you incorrect? When you call some a PhD or Doctor in Theology, are you incorrect? Doctor (gen.: doctoris) means teacher in Latin and is an agent noun derived from the verb docere ('teach').
569 posted on 08/08/2010 10:49:36 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Cronos
Here in Poland, the Poles call their priest "Ksiąz" which does not translate as father in any way.

Good. It is offense enough that they have priests.

And, when you call someone Teacher -- are you incorrect? When you call some a PhD or Doctor in Theology, are you incorrect? Doctor (gen.: doctoris) means teacher in Latin and is an agent noun derived from the verb docere ('teach').

Not when it is used in the common sense of the word - Anymore than if one calls his Dad "father".

When is is imbued with reverence, when the title is an honorific one, rather than a job description, as it were... Then it is incorrect.

Christ set forth His Church with servants in place of glorified, set-apart priests and teachers. There is no hierarchy among believers... And what hierarchy is there is a matter of service, not authority.

In that service IS the authority.

You know, the handful of people I know to be a true, spirit-filled servants of God are self-deprecating in the face of honors being bestowed upon them.

And they are also the ones who speak with the most authority. It exudes from them as real power. Yet these are always humble and living quietly - with no pomp or circumstance.

They would be dismayed and embarrassed by any such honors. Every one of them would send such things on to the Father, or to Christ, where such things belong.

587 posted on 08/08/2010 11:25:16 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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