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To: slimemold; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; kosta50

One would have to be spiritually blind to trust the Freemason Thomas Paine- who tried to make Freemasonry out to be similar to Christianity.

From Thomas Paine...
“The christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between their origin is, that the christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun”

“As the study and contemplation of the Creator [is] in the works of the creation, the Sun, as the great visible agent of that Being, was the visible object of the adoration of Druids; all their religious rites and ceremonies had reference to the apparent progress of the Sun through the twelve signs of the Zodiac, and his influence upon the earth.”

“The worship of the Sun as the great visible agent of a great invisible first cause, “Time without limits,” spread itself over a considerable part of Asia and Africa, from thence to Greece and Rome, through all ancient Gaul, and into Britain and Ireland.
Smith, in his chapter on the antiquity of Masonry in Britain, says, that “notwithstanding the obscurity which envelopes Masonic history in that country, various circumstances contribute to prove that Free-Masonry was introduced into Britain about 1030 Years before Christ.”

Writings of Thomas Paine published by G.P. Putnam’s Sons in 1896.


79 posted on 07/26/2010 6:20:48 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi; slimemold; betty boop; YHAOS; TXnMA; kosta50
Let's give credit where credit is due, but not overstate Thomas Paine's importance.

At best he was a pamphleteer, a very good one who was clearly helpful in inspiring the Patriots during the American Revolution.

But his "Age of Reason" was written much later when he was imprisoned in France. American leaders honored him for his service in his declining years but his religious views were NOT roundly embraced by the Americans as his inspirations to revolt were by the Patriots.

Thomas Paine

His career turned to journalism while in Philadelphia, and suddenly, Thomas Paine became very important. In 1776, he published Common Sense, a strong defense of American Independence from England. He traveled with the Continental Army and wasn't a success as a soldier, but he produced The Crisis (1776-83), which helped inspire the Army. This pamphlet was so popular that as a percentage of the population, it was read by or read to more people than today watch the Super Bowl.

But, instead of continuing to help the Revolutionary cause, he returned to Europe and pursued other ventures, including working on a smokeless candle and an iron bridge. In 1791-92, he wrote The Rights of Man in response to criticism of the French Revolution. This work caused Paine to be labeled an outlaw in England for his anti-monarchist views. He would have been arrested, but he fled for France to join the National Convention.

By 1793, he was imprisoned in France for not endorsing the execution of Louis XVI. During his imprisonment, he wrote and distributed the first part of what was to become his most famous work at the time, the anti-church text, The Age of Reason (1794-96). He was freed in 1794 (narrowly escaping execution) thanks to the efforts of James Monroe, then U.S. Minister to France. Paine remained in France until 1802 when he returned to America on an invitation from Thomas Jefferson. Paine discovered that his contributions to the American Revolution had been all but eradicated due to his religious views. Derided by the public and abandoned by his friends, he died on June 8, 1809 at the age of 72 in New York City.


81 posted on 07/26/2010 9:04:19 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: stfassisi; slimemold; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
One would have to be spiritually blind to trust the Freemason Thomas Paine- who tried to make Freemasonry out to be similar to Christianity

Excellent post SFA. Thomas Paine, John Adamas (Unitarists), Bejamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson (Deists) did not write a triniatrian Christian doucment.

82 posted on 07/26/2010 10:02:53 AM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: stfassisi; slimemold; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; kosta50
“The christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between their origin is, that the christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun”

I prefer G.K. Chesterton; more specifically, his short story The Eye of Apollo:

So her eyes got worse and worse with straining; but the worst strain was to come. It came with this precious prophet, or whatever he calls himself, who taught her to stare at the hot sun with the naked eye. It was called accepting Apollo. Oh, if these new pagans would only be old pagans, they would be a little wiser! The old pagans knew that mere naked Nature-worship must have a cruel side. They knew that the eye of Apollo can blast and blind."

239 posted on 07/30/2010 11:16:08 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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