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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; YHAOS; dfwgator; Diamond; xzins; TXnMA; shibumi; Texas Songwriter; Quix
In the West, the Church teaches that God creates a new soul at the moment of conception; that makes us all unrelated. We can see how the western idea of individualism may have welled from that concept. Every person is unique and unrelated, with individual rights.

You have a knack for "either–or" diatribes. The Law of the Excluded Middle may be the closest you come to the idea of God. I dunno....

Maybe I'm not sufficiently "orthodox"; but it is not my belief that God "creates a new soul at the moment of conception." My believe is that God creates all souls in the Beginning. And they are definitely all related, by virtue of one single paternity — God the Father, of whom we are sons (and daughters), and moreover made in His image.

648 posted on 09/06/2010 1:59:03 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: betty boop

Thanks for the ping.


650 posted on 09/06/2010 2:04:22 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; stfassisi; annalex; YHAOS; dfwgator; Diamond; xzins; TXnMA; shibumi; ...
You have a knack for "either–or" diatribes. The Law of the Excluded Middle may be the closest you come to the idea of God. I dunno....

That's not really addressing the issue is it, betty boop?

Maybe I'm not sufficiently "orthodox"; but it is not my belief that God "creates a new soul at the moment of conception."

Goes without saying. Your beliefs are contrary to what your Church teaches, if it is still your Church, that is. The Book of Genesis makes it clear that Adam's soul did not pre-exist. And if Eve was made form Adam's rib than his soul became her soul.

In you believe in the pre-existence of the souls, your belief is heresy according to the Catholic Church. The Church specifically condemned the teaching of Origen over this issue and over the issue of universal salvation. Both of these are Gnostic beliefs that ultimately lead to the pagan belief in reincarnation, which the Church flatly condemns.

From what you are saying you have strayed rather far from the teaching of your Church and into the Christian periphery. But then again, you did say that you are presently unchurched, so at least you admit to that.

652 posted on 09/06/2010 2:30:40 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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