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NY Times, Boston Globe and THEIR “Zero Tolerance” rule
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| 07/22/10
| Fr. John Zuhlsdorf
Posted on 07/22/2010 10:57:08 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
22 July 2010
From The Catholic League with my emphases and comments:
BOSTON GLOBE & NYT LACK "ZERO TOLERANCE" RULE
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments as follows:
Yesterday, a Boston Globe editorial unfavorably compared the Vatican to the American bishops, saying that "Until the church adopts a zero-tolerance policy, justice cannot be served
."
On July 9 and July 17, the New York Times, which owns the Globe, ran editorials voicing the same criticism. The Times editorial of July 17 correctly notes that such a policy means "requiring secular authorities to be alerted from the beginning." Interestingly, neither newspaper has such a policy of its own.
Section IV of the New York Times Business Ethics Policy (which also governs the Globe), says, "Any employee who becomes aware of any conduct that he or she believes to be prohibited by this Policy or a violation of the law," is expected to "promptly report the facts" to "any supervisor or the legal department." (My italics.) It says nothing about contacting the authorities. [Say it aint so!] Moreover, their policy says that if an employee has been found guilty, "appropriate and corrective action up to and including termination" will take place. Even then it says nothing about contacting the authorities! [ShaZAM!]
Yesterday, we contacted three persons on four different occasions who work in the Boston Globes Human Resources Department about this issue. No one responded.
This settles the issue.
The New York Times and the Boston Globe find it unwise to adopt the same policy regarding employee misconductincluding instances where the law is brokenthat it condemns the Catholic Church for not adopting worldwide.
So if a priest is alleged to have groped a parishioner, the cops must be called. But even after an internal probe reveals that an employee at the Times or Globe is guilty of the same offense, the cops should not be summoned. The hypocrisy is vile.
Contact the editorial page editors, Andrew Rosenthal at the Times and Peter Canellos at the Globe: andyr@nytimes.com and canellos@globe.com
TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bostonglob; catholic; catholicbashing; nyettimes; pravdamedia
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
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posted on
07/22/2010 10:58:19 AM PDT
by
massmike
(...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
To: ELS; PatriotGirl827; IrishCatholic; Judith Anne; mlizzy; JSteff; wagglebee; NYer; Salvation; ...
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I see. We’re supposed to take the advice of these socialists?
Gee, what a deal for us and the pope.
They’re going out of business because of their lousy standards. What in the world do they know?
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posted on
07/22/2010 10:59:31 AM PDT
by
RexBeach
("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Section IV of the New York Times Business Ethics Policy (which also governs the Globe), says, "Any employee who becomes aware of any conduct that he or she believes to be prohibited by this Policy or a violation of the law," is expected to "promptly report the facts" to "any supervisor or the legal department." (My italics.) It says nothing about contacting the authorities. [Say it aint so!] Moreover, their policy says that if an employee has been found guilty, "appropriate and corrective action up to and including termination" will take place. Even then it says nothing about contacting the authorities! When they are unethical (like making up witnesses and quotes or running discredited porn site images as evidence of US troops "raping" Iraqi prisoners), they don't even want to notify their readers they've been had.
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posted on
07/22/2010 11:00:08 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
That's why I read The Boston Herald!

...although I do wish they'd send Margery Eagan and Peter Gelzinis to the Globe...where they belong!
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posted on
07/22/2010 11:05:06 AM PDT
by
massmike
(...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; metmom; Alex Murphy
Perhaps Fr. John Zuhlsdorf could learn context?
Ive not read any stories about a major child rape problem at the Boston Globe or New York Times.
The Boston Globe or New York Times does not portend to the the Universal Church or a moral authority.
The Boston Globe or New York Times hasnt settled billions in lawsuits for said child rape.
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posted on
07/22/2010 11:11:36 AM PDT
by
TSgt
(We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
To: TSgt; Dr. Brian Kopp; Quix; metmom; Alex Murphy
Ive not read any stories about a major child rape problem at the Boston Globe or New York Times. The Boston Globe or New York Times does not portend to the the Universal Church or a moral authority. The Boston Globe or New York Times hasnt settled billions in lawsuits for said child rape.Amen!
When you have no defense, go on the offense.
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posted on
07/22/2010 11:17:33 AM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: TSgt
9
posted on
07/22/2010 11:17:58 AM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: TSgt; Dr. Brian Kopp; Quix; metmom; Alex Murphy
It says nothing about contacting the authorities.If this is their only defense, they're cooked. Because nowhere in this NYT directive does it say NOT to contact the police or to maintain a veil of absolute secrecy from EVERYONE, both of which are specifically outlined in papal instructions regarding sexual assault by priests.
So there's no comparison.
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posted on
07/22/2010 11:21:53 AM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Hypocrisy in a newspaper? who would have guessed? Now that means the Boston Globe should not have written about the 150 plus molesting priests in the Boston diocese and their enablers?
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posted on
07/22/2010 12:14:34 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
12
posted on
07/22/2010 12:45:54 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
If this is their only defense, they're cooked. Because nowhere in this NYT directive does it say NOT to contact the police or to maintain a veil of absolute secrecy from EVERYONE, both of which are specifically outlined in papal instructions regarding sexual assault by priests
Could you please quote and reference these alleged instructions requiring this "veil of absolute secrecy" which you say are "sepcifically outlined"? I for one would be very interested in seeing them.
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posted on
07/22/2010 1:05:41 PM PDT
by
cothrige
To: count-your-change
The local diocese investigates every allegation of sexual abuse of a minor by a cleric. If the allegation has a semblance of truth the case is referred to the CDF. The local bishop transmits all the necessary information to the CDF and expresses his opinion on the procedures to be followed and the measures to be adopted in the short and long term.
Civil law concerning reporting of crimes to the appropriate authorities should always be followed.
Guide to Understanding Basic CDF Procedures concerning Sexual Abuse Allegations
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posted on
07/22/2010 1:11:35 PM PDT
by
cothrige
To: count-your-change
My apologies for the above post being directed to you. I clicked the wrong link.
15
posted on
07/22/2010 1:19:06 PM PDT
by
cothrige
To: cothrige
No problem, I’ll take a look at it so your click wasn’t wasted!
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posted on
07/22/2010 1:36:02 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: cothrige
Read Ratzinger’s letter to the bishops which, among other things, affirms Crimen Sollicitationis.
I’ve posted both a dozen times. You shouldn’t have trouble find them online.
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posted on
07/22/2010 3:17:48 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: cothrige; Dr. Eckleburg
cothrige,
Dr. E. made a couple of claims about Crimen Sollicitationis which she was never able to substantiate in the least. At one point she was making a claim that clearly showed she could not have understood what the document actually said. She misunderstood the word “prescription” which, incredibly, show took to mean an “oath of secrecy.” Actually it is more of a statute of limitations than anything else. It is not an oath of secrecy at all. I pressed her on this for days and days in more than one thread.
See, for instance, posts 8 and 12 in this thread. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2491835/posts
Then check post 70, 71, 80, 81, 87, 93, and you’ll see how dishonest an anti-Catholic can be.
18
posted on
07/22/2010 4:11:48 PM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
To: vladimir998; frogjerk; Dr. Eckleburg
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posted on
07/22/2010 4:21:13 PM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
To: vladimir998
I wasn’t “shown to be wrong.”
Anyone reading the threads knows what’s going on...anyone except those who have an agenda of “absolute secrecy.”
Stop defending the indefensible and come into the light.
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posted on
07/22/2010 4:24:41 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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