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Posted on 07/18/2010 4:27:06 PM PDT by restornu
Here it is again Resty, so you can pick out three things that are untrue. Any three. Mormon Missionary Deception Method:
1. Convince you of their sincerity 2. Trick you into expressing faith first in the Book of Mormon by praying and asking for a sign (this takes you off the objective ground of Biblical truth and puts you into subjective ground of feelings) 3. Convince you that the Bible has errors in its translation 4. Trick you into expressing faith in the prophet Joseph Smith 5. Trick you into expressing faith in the Restoration of the “Gospel” (see Galatians Chapter one) 6. Get you all the way into the baptismal font...
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7. ONLY THEN... you will learn the true DEVIANT doctrines of Mormonism. At this point, it is too late! You only have feelings as a basis of truth! You will believe anything.
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Such as the following “truths” taught in mormonism ...
The 3 Mormon Earth gods:
... The mormon “Heavenly Father” used to be a regular Joe, but became God - his name was Adam. Adam sinned. You will have to swallow that God could sin! ... The Jesus of mormonism was a created spirit being who became one of the three mormon earth gods ... The mormonic Holy Spirit is also a created spirit being. He doesn’t have a body because he is on probation! Yes, he was naughty. He sinned.
... In short, the mormon earth gods are fallen, sinful, created spirit beings.
... and there is more...
The FOURTH Mormon Earth God they don't like to talk about
... The Mormon Heavenly Mother God!
... Yes, it turns out there is a mormonic “Heavenly Mother God!”
... SHE and the father god have sex ... SHE is eternally pregnant ... SHE pops out spirit children who will some day get a human body on earth and can become gods themselves ... SHE is probably not the only godess! Mormons still believe and teach eternal polygamy - sister godesses
The Mormonic Pantheon of Trillions of gods:
... There are TRILLIONS of mormon gods on other planets. No one knows how many. It could be infinite. ... Hindus have approximately 350 million gods. They are pikers compared to mormons!
... How do they get so many gods? They manufacture more all the time:
... Any mormon male can be a God with his own planet, mother goddesses, and spirit kids to worship him. ... Becoming a mormon god means lots of works to attain the god-level. This is why you see mormons working so hard. Now you know why.They have to prove themselves worthy of godhood. ... All the trillions of gods in the mormon pantheon get together regularly over spring break in Kolob Beach to “counsel together”
What will your life be like as a mormon?
... you have to give 10%? - if not, no top level of heaven for you! ... your bishop is there to ask if you gave your FULL tithe - he may ask to see your pay stubs ... your bishop is also there to ask many probing, personal, embarrassing questions ... you will have to complete Masonic Temple rituals that involve strangers touching your private parts ... You will have to wear magic underwear 24/7/365
Once inside the Morg, you have to accept it ALL to move up the chain towards Godhood. This is just the start!
(I save ‘offended’ for Restornu!!)
Just kidding resty!!
There you go; using FACTS to tear down MORMON beliefs.
One should know that LOGIC will NEVER win out over EMOTION.
Only after their HEART is broken will the Love of GOD be that soothing salve to the wounded spirit.
One must be REALLY wise to have come to THIS conclusion!
And ALL-KNOWING; too!
You've typed THIS here; (God must laugh at all the fools.) but have THIS on your home pasge:
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear."
Thomas Jefferson
So; do you BELIEVE in a god; or not?
Thomas Jefferson said he thought Jesus had “every human excellence” and “claimed no other”. Amazing how someone could come to entirely the wrong idea if that was not included in the quote!
In other words, Jefferson believed in a mortal and human Jesus who was a moral philosopher; not a Jesus who was a divine being delivering the revealed word of God and redemption from sin to mankind.
I THINK that you do NOT 'know' any such thing at all; but merely BELIEVE what you have been taught by the religious organization based in Salt Lake City.
The FACTS are that only ONE man was ever found guilty of ANY crime associated with MMM: John Doyle Lee.
Folks can GOOGLE® his name and read all KINDS of things about him; but NO WHERE will they find out how he was able to kill all those people by himself.
He could NOT have been able to shoot that accurately or reload that rapidly to get it done!
funny you should post that for years no one knew what church that was being talked about now we know it is liberation theology social justice
ROTFLaughingHysterically....So NOW we get a prophecy that wasn't even prophesied!!!
Someone has figured out a way to twist a Book of Mormon condemnation of Christians to give mormons credit for "seeing" the future and absolving mormon leaders from their condemnation of Christians, all in one fell swoop!
Yeah because everyone knows there was no oppostion to Mormonism before Romney ran in 2008...
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Really we owe a debt to Mitt the Socialist for his failed run and the underhandedness an deciet of his sychophants here and elsewhere exposed one more LDS lie, the one that they are rock ribbed reliable conservatives who always put country first...
Aside from a damning statement by one of the local Indian chiefs, to absolve Brigham Young of responsibility for the MMM is absurd for a couple of reasons.
First, in Utah at that time, you couldn’t blow your nose without Young’s permission. It was like Iraq under Saddam. Secondly, John D. Lee was very close to Young, and had even been sealed to him, essentially as an adopted son. It’s therefore ridiculous to suggest that his actions were that of some kind of loose cannon.
“if this post is even remotely accurate then Mormonism is a far cry from Christianity”
It is not “remotely accurate” but rather twisted and tweeked to the point of nonsense.
Take some time and go to the source: www.lds.org or www.mormon.org
No, Sandy what is wrong about the statement in question.
I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and I am perplexed by all this Mormon bashing. It is the strangest, oddest phenominon ever!
“Jesus is the Lord.” I said that and believe it with all my heart.
“Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost”
1 Corinthians 12:3
Our Father in Heaven has promised me that I will mount up with wings as eagles; I shall run, and not be weary; and I shall walk, and not faint. I shall not be deceived. God will bless and prosper me. The gates of hell shall not prevail against me; and the Lord God will disperse the powers of darkness from before me and cause the heavens to shake for my good and His name’s glory.
Amen.
P.S. I am a Mormon and not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And before you say that my Jesus is different from your Jesus - that you have the real Jesus, let me say it again. If by that you mean that your Jesus condemns me to hell, then you are right; your Jesus is different from my Jesus. My Jesus loves and accepts me. He died for me; He is my Savior, Redeemer, the Great Jehovah of the Old Testament and the Savior of the New Testament; He is the Creator of the Universe and He is my personal Friend.
That is a nice try at a dodge but it doesn't answer the question. Let me restate it: If testimonies are accepted as validating beliefs, how can you determine a group is aberrant?
If this is truly the attitude of the LDS "church", then why send out armies of missionaries?
This is a good spot to post THIS:
The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
Joseph Smith
I like being a Mormon. For one thing:
The Family: A Proclamation to the World
The First Presidency and Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
We, the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator’s plan for the eternal destiny of His children.
All human beings—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose.
In the premortal realm, spirit sons and daughters knew and worshiped God as their Eternal Father and accepted His plan by which His children could obtain a physical body and gain earthly experience to progress toward perfection and ultimately realize his or her divine destiny as an heir of eternal life. The divine plan of happiness enables family relationships to be perpetuated beyond the grave. Sacred ordinances and covenants available in holy temples make it possible for individuals to return to the presence of God and for families to be united eternally.
The first commandment that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as husband and wife. We declare that God’s commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force. We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife.
We declare the means by which mortal life is created to be divinely appointed. We affirm the sanctity of life and of its importance in God’s eternal plan.
Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. “Children are an heritage of the Lord” (Psalms 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations.
The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on principles of faith, prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed.
We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.
We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.
This proclamation was read by President Gordon B. Hinckley as part of his message at the General Relief Society Meeting held September 23, 1995, in Salt Lake City, Utah.
Some of us feel moved to answer the call echoing down from history to be willing to do battle for Jesus.
ONWARD, CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS
1. Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before. Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe; forward into battle see his banners go! Refrain: Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before. 2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee; on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory! Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise; brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise. (Refrain) 3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God; brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod. We are not divided, all one body we, one in hope and doctrine, one in charity. (Refrain) 4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane, but the church of Jesus constant will remain. Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail; we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail. (Refrain) 5. Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng, blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
STAND UP, STAND UP FOR JESUS
1. Stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the cross; lift high his royal banner, it must not suffer loss. From victory unto victory his army shall he lead, till every foe is vanquished, and Christ is Lord indeed. 2. Stand up, stand up for Jesus, the trumpet call obey; forth to the mighty conflict, in this his glorious day. Ye that are brave now serve him against unnumbered foes; let courage rise with danger, and strength to strength oppose. 3. Stand up, stand up for Jesus, stand in his strength alone; the arm of flesh will fail you, ye dare not trust your own. Put on the gospel armor, each piece put on with prayer; where duty calls or danger, be never wanting there. 4. Stand up, stand up for Jesus, the strife will not be long; this day the noise of battle, the next the victor's song. To those who vanquish evil a crown of life shall be; they with the King of Glory shall reign eternally.
There aren't any "soldiers of the cross mentions in mormon hymnbooks,however look at the last verse of this favorite mormon hymn:PRAISE TO THE MAN
1844 version
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.
Chorus:
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.
Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assassins,
Stain Illinois while the earth lauds his fame.
Chorus
Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.
Chorus
Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know "Brother Joseph" again.
Chorus
You can see, every day, that some FReepers feel called upon to "Wake up the world for the conflict of justice." for Joseph Smith....I'm awaiting the posting of the lyrics of a musical mormon call to do battle for Jesus.
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