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To: Jvette
I believe the Catechism can do a much better job of explaining, but haven’t the time now to post what it says.

According to one of your Catholic cohorts, You will not possibly be able to understand the catechism without years of study in the footnotes, scripture, history, ancient languages and customs and wardrobes...

So good luck to ya...

7,036 posted on 08/05/2010 11:32:59 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
"According to one of your Catholic cohorts, You will not possibly be able to understand the catechism without years of study in the footnotes, scripture, history, ancient languages and customs and wardrobes..."

It is a dubious feeling to be misquoted and not cited, but I said "study" not "years of study". Regardless of the time involved, takes more than YOPIC (Your Own Personal Interpretation of the Catechism) obtained in a few Google sessions to gain an understanding sufficient to formulate a cogent opinion.

Besides, you have absolutely no way of knowing what Jvette's Catholic education is or any qualifications to actually judge it.

7,038 posted on 08/05/2010 11:43:37 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Iscool

the Catholic understanding of Scripture, just as her understanding of Tradition and the Magisterium are not fly by night teachings. They are the result of years of exegesis by thousands of theologians.

Just as we see here on this thread, a word or phrase misused or misunderstood creates further confusion and debate. That is why the Church is very careful in her descriptions.

When I said that the catechism could better explain, it is because I am just a simple person who has tried to faithfully understand and accept the teachings given me by the Church. I do this because I accept, after much prayer and study, that the Church is the one church founded by Christ.

Therefore, when I write here or speak with others, I do not always say it as clearly or surely as the Church has done so in her official documents.

It is not the Church which complicates, but our human nature and free will. The Church neither accepts or rejects something out of hand. It is only after many years that a declaration as binding is made, and that usually after a challenge that compels clarification of a teaching.

Other Catholics here, I think, believe as I do, and do as I do, which is to take all that we are taught into our hearts to ponder and understand. First we must come to accept the Church and her authority. It is a very intimate relationship that one outside of it may not be able to understand.


7,041 posted on 08/05/2010 11:51:52 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: Iscool; Jvette; Deo volente
Oh, no, it takes that effort to not make the mistakes you made like:
1. Asking if the pope washes anyone's feet (besides his own I presume!) when most educated people do see this happening each Maundy Thursday
2. complete lack of knowledge on the nuances or indeed any idea on any language besides American English -- especially none in Koine Greek or Aramaic
3. Lack of knowledge on history
4. Making bets that some scripture is not in the Catechism and not willing to enumerate that bet.
7,202 posted on 08/05/2010 10:11:55 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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