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To: roamer_1
"No, I think not. But Christ is special, as He is the ONLY instance where the sins of the fathers could not be passed down, as His Father was not within the curse."

No doubt Christ is special, but how could He purchase our redemption if He did not have a 'sin nature' that could be submitted to the will of the Father?

Hebrews 4:15 - "For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin."

Clearly, if he did not have a 'sin nature', He was not "tempted in every way, just as we are".

6,977 posted on 08/05/2010 9:12:45 AM PDT by prot (You humans, sometimes its hard to imagine how you've made it this far.)
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To: prot; roamer_1
"Clearly, if he did not have a 'sin nature', He was not "tempted in every way, just as we are". " --> a very good point that I did not notice. The marvellous thing about Christ was that He was one of us -- a human being, completely, utterly, with all our failings and with all our temptations. Yet, He was not one of us -- a complete conundrum.

Christ was born like one of us, yet was sinless. He became sin and died a physical death. It's a wonder of God.
6,984 posted on 08/05/2010 9:27:17 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: prot
[roamer_1:] No, I think not. But Christ is special, as He is the ONLY instance where the sins of the fathers could not be passed down, as His Father was not within the curse.

No doubt Christ is special, but how could He purchase our redemption if He did not have a 'sin nature' that could be submitted to the will of the Father?

I think the question is in error: As far as redemption goes, it is the Lamb of God, without spot or blemish, which is sacrificed for us... That Blood is the "coin" of purchase/redemption. The purity of that offering is priceless because it is without sin.

Hebrews 4:15 - "For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin."

Clearly, if he did not have a 'sin nature', He was not "tempted in every way, just as we are".

There is the sticky wicket, isn't it? His temptation, and His time in Gethsemane are quite possibly the most human moments of all. One doesn't think of God being tempted or in distress...

But then, I don't have a "hypostatic union" to defend - So I can shrug my shoulders and say, "He is God. As God, anything is possible." It is a mystery which is not revealed, and I am content to leave it that way.

7,048 posted on 08/05/2010 12:39:59 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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