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To: Mad Dawg
Mary is the Mother of Jesus - SO Mary is the Mother of God the Son of God.

YOU are human reasoning/understanding and we are told NOT to lean unto our own understanding.

Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you." Jesus replied, "But even more blessed are ALL who HEAR the word of God and OBEY it."

Hear and Obey -
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and LEAN NOT on your OWN UNDERSTANDING;
6,609 posted on 08/04/2010 2:33:26 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
So the problem with my argument is that it makes sense?

But, if I accept your premises, YOUR argument makes sense. Does that make it bad?

And I am not leaning to My understanding or to human understanding because I trust God's promise to his Church. So I think to abide by the decrees of Ephesus and Chalcedon is exactly to hear and obey the Word of God

I don't think the definitions are any more the will of man or traditions of men than are the theological conclusions of the Council of Jerusalem. It seems to me that council provides precedent for the subsequent councils. So, to me, trusting God to speak at Ephesus and Chalcedon is hearing the word of God and keeping it.

6,615 posted on 08/04/2010 2:43:04 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. here)
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To: presently no screen name; Mad Dawg
Hear and Obey - Trust in the LORD with all your heart and LEAN NOT on your OWN UNDERSTANDING;

As an aside, but applicable to this (and every) argument:

The rise of Pharisee-ism was predicated by one single flaw: The Pharisees came to believe there were TWO Torahs delivered to Moses on the mount...

One, the written Torah, with the "Big 10" written in stone - directly by the finger of God Himself - and the rest brought forth through Moses as the whole of the Torah.

The second, the belief that there was more that was delivered to Moses than what he actually wrote down.

This they called the "Oral Law," passed "mouth to ear," according to authority... and it is the very foundation of the Pharisaical tradition. Upon this foundation, the "wisdom" of famed Rabbis were laid, according to the majority opinion among the authorized, and within a few hundred years, a religious system was built which was so burdensome and against salvation, that the Christ called it a "pit of vipers."

I would submit that it is in this light that one must apply the words:

Hear and Obey - Trust in the LORD with all your heart and LEAN NOT on your OWN UNDERSTANDING;

What God intended in that case (the Old Covenant), He most certainly committed to the pen of His agent, that His words would be clearly preserved. God does not change. Why would He treat the New Covenant any differently?

6,636 posted on 08/04/2010 3:22:23 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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