Posted on 07/11/2010 12:05:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
"On behalf of the Catholic Church in El Salvador and society in general, we ask Mr. President to use his executive power to veto the decree referred to upholding the rule of law and democracy of our Salvadoran society"
The Episcopal Conference of El Salvador (CEDES) demanded on Sunday the president Mauricio Funes veto a legislative decree that compels us to read the Bible in schools, believing that "violates" the "religious freedom" enshrined in the Constitution.
The CEDES Funes makes the call under in the coming days must be punished, veto or observe the legislative decree 411 which provides read the Bible in classrooms to combat violence.
The education of children in the faith, according to the bishops, "is a right and duty" of parents, aided by ministers of religion.
"We are interested in reading the Bible, but not as imposing liability in the schools, hopefully becoming more read the Bible is more understood, more practiced," says the shepherd.
(Excerpt) Read more at translate.google.com ...
Words in brackets [ ] are generally recognized to denote editorial additions not in the original, which sources are carefully and very evidently provided, which is what your contention should be with as far as accuracy is concerned. But unless you are given to believing there are powerful conspiracies controlling everything, it is best to acknowledge the evidence and work from there.
No, sorry, that just won't work. Your source site is not objective, not at all. The bracketed text inserted by your source merely illustrates that fact. I went to the source home page as well. Whether or not the statistics are correct is not my focus, my focus is the objectiveness of the source providing the statistics.
I don’t know why you keep misrepresenting things, but you do.
You wrote:
“When your own article post shows that’s not the case at all, you then add that “teachers will answer questions - and that will mean interpretation.” Uh, yeah, right. Do you realize 90 percent of those teachers will be Catholics?? I don’t even care if they give the CATHOLIC version on that—just get the actual BIBLE read in the darn classes and let’s see what happens.”
False. Nothing in the article showed that I was wrong in the least. All the articles shows is that the law does not foster interpretation. I am saying it will happen anyway. Also, I doubt that 90% of the teachers are FAITHFUL Catholics. I don’t care if they call themselves Catholics. You seem desperate.
“Man, how can you be against 9 out of 10 teachers giving the CATHOLIC version of how to interpret that stuff?”
What on earth mankes you think that that will happen? First of all you were insisting just a minute ago that no interpretation was going to take place. Now you’re insisting - without a shred of evidence - that it will be ONLY Catholic interpretation 9 out of 10 times. I have no reason at all to believe that interpretation will NOT take place and no reason at all to believe it will be only Catholic interpretation when it does.
“So, you are the anti-Catholic here, not me, it would appear.”
No, I am just the one armed with reality. You are armed with fantasies.
Well then you will live in a very sterile world. You cannot believe Fox News or CNN or the AP on anything, as both have definite ideologies. While i certainly believe in comparing sources, when you have consistent statistics over a number of years from a multiplicity of sources, as is the case here, and nothing of substance in opposition, from polling data to answers from regular church attendees, then you must assume a vast evangelical power over all such media, even though it is demonstrable that they are very anti-evangelical Christian.
In addition, you have my word that i did not fabricate stats or sources, but am more careful then many in providing such. And in length, i think you will find me to be one of the more objective of your adversaries.
You wrote:
“I’m thinking you’re just worried that more people will find out that the real church is not the Catholic religion...”
No, but I freely admit that I believe Catholics might be mislead by Protestants or Jehovah’s Witness or Mormon or secularist teachers. I believe it is better for children in such a society to be catechized by their churches than their state. Don’t you?
I did not say the numbers were fabricated, by the way. As a Catholic, I know how dismal some of them are.
Is it your web page?
Web site and page, yes, by the grace of God, for whatever is good.
How many of the "shocked" anti-Catholics would be equally shocked of the government instructed that a Catholic teacher in the US read and explain the bible to their children.
RE: Change the word if you will to “faith groups,”
The Catholic Church is not a “faith group”. Faith groups, denominations or whatever you want to call them are what you get when the smoke of Satan causes blinded men and women to abandon Christ’s Church in favor of theology based on the whims of men.
You can keep your satanic faith groups. I’ll stick with Christ’s Church.
We read Maccabbees at home about every other year ... politics, religion, espionage, blood and gore ... what’s not to love?
Ohhh no... someone might actually be saved ...we just can not have that
The Bible speaks for itself ... so you ban teachers from teaching their preferred doctrine and stick to just what it says
`That was when kids really learned to read..
I will say again...catholics leave the church as much as those who enter...it works both ways...now the catholic church might think once a catholic always a catholic....the Mormons say the same thing as do other faiths...that does not make it so. It does work both ways and you should know better than to say it doesn’t.
Better to say one is Christian...believes in Christ and follows Him.
Ya sorta like say a few words over a cracker and it becomes the "body of Christ"
"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."Romans 10:17
Interesting read
Call it what you will, the evidence remains the same. As for your claims for Rome, by what means are we to know that Rome is the one true church?
They don't all go to confession and you know this...I know this...and yes they remain hidden from the church and from those of the church....they do the deeds outside and away from the church. And there are plenty out there to see them thru.
I was going to state you misunderstood my speaking of inclusiveness...but you and I both know that it's fruitless to continue this conversation...there are some catholics I respect as individuals regardless of their affiliation to the church...so better this ends here. We just do not see eye to eye in matters of the faith.
RE: As for your claims for Rome, by what means are we to know that Rome is the one true church?
I read AND UNDERSTAND the Bible, and am not subject to the whimsical wishes of fallen men who have established their own self-centered traditions.
RE: the evidence remains the same
And you have no evidence but from an anti-Catholic rant site, the spawn of Satan no doubt.
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