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To: knarf

You wrote:

“Do you and other Catholics believe that?”

Believe what? Be specific.

“Is that a Catholic doctrine?”

What? Be specific.


18 posted on 07/11/2010 12:20:23 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998
If you believe a man could/should provide a sacrifice that would be for expiation or propitiation of a soul, the question arises;
Where is that soul and why should a man provide for it's expiation, when the scriptures are clear ... Jesus only is our propitiation.


"He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death."


Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; (KJV ASV WBS NAS)

Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore it behooved him in all things to be made like unto his brethren, that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. (ASV DBY YLT NAS)

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world. (KJV ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS)

1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (KJV ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS)

19 posted on 07/11/2010 12:34:04 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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