[vladimir998]

Protestant anti-Catholics have a nasty habit of outright lying.

Case in point:

“•Offering of money for the sins of the dead (2 Maccabees 12:43).”

False. There was a collection so that sacrifices and prayers for the dead could be made. Sacrifices took money. Someone had to buy the animals.

Here’s what the Bible actually says:

He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view;
for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death.

Thus, no money was offered. Sacrifices were offered.

Anti-Catholics lie. They get away with it because they know most anti-Catholics are simply too lazy or stupid to actually crack open a book (even the Bible!) and look up the truth.

[knarf]

"He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death."

Do you and other Catholics believe that?

Is that a Catholic doctrine?

[BenKenobi]

Thanks! I hear that claim over and over again.

[Lorica]

Their lies are dealt out like a deck of cards and then gathered up and dealt out again. Over and over. Then they sit back and watch the Catholics refute the lies over and over (which they do admirably). The net result is that many lurkers get a chance to see good Catholic apologetics at work, and that is all to the good.

[blue-duncan]

2 Macc. 12:43-45 flies in the face of Roman Catholic doctrine. Judas Maccabeas is praying for soldiers who were killed because they were idol worshipers. Idolatry was a capital crime in Israel and there was no salvation for one caught worshiping idols. It is a mortal sin in Roman Catholicism. How then can the soldiers be in purgatory which is the place for “believers” to be purified, and how cans any prayer or “good” works save them?

Some Catholics obfuscate. They get away with it because they know most Catholics are simply too lazy or stupid to actually crack open a book (even the Bible!) and look up the truth.