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"Vatican Officials" say a lot of things. This man who is said to be an expert in demonology also claims to be an expert on the phenomenon of intelligent extraterrestrial life. We say they are supernatural in origin and the appearance of strange and foreboding lights in the sky are unfavorable signs.
Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italiannational television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due topsychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, [Like the historical propensity for the press to be leftist deceivers who herald new phenomena like Communism as saviours of mankind.] his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.
Balducci revealed to a visiting American professional that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon quietly. My informant originally surmised that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nunciatures (embassies) in various countries.
BTW, Perhaps you noticed, I *FINALLY* learned to use photobucket etc. to host and post photos such as from LMH's website. HERE'S A MUCH SHORTER EXCERPT for illustration and as a teaser invite to the other thread for discussion.
Did you catch the TRANSPORTED THROUGH THE CEILING "scorch" marks a la evidently similar to the Turin Shroud's 'scorches' . . . on this thread
at the beginning of . . . post #173
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2590064/posts?page=173#173
It's a long post with excerpts from many sections of reports, articles and interviews on the topic at earthfiles.com
It is the most detailed treatment of the topic I've ever seen. And, the photos are incredible. I only posted a couple of them. Maybe I'll post 3 additional photos here to illustrate what I'm talking about and encourage some serious pondering and reflection on such realities:
From:
DOES URANDIR WALK INTO THE BEAM OR DOES IT COME DOWN AROUND HIM?
At this point, he walks into the light. As he is going back down in the beam, about half way down, this light changes him from a standing position and puts him in the previous exact position when he was on the bed before (on September 15, 2002). The very same position and he is paralyzed again to go all the way through the roof and ceiling of his house and back to where he was."
I later asked Urandir to check the roof and see if the same body print was on the tiles. He could not find any evidence there, but a more thorough examination is going to be made beneath the roof tiles and the upper side of the wood beneath the tiles by a scientist in March who is also investigating the Corghinho phenomena.
ANY DIFFERENT FEELING THEN?
Like as if his bones are stretching.
FELIPE: Like cracking joints.
AS IF THE BONE JOINTS SEEM TO SNAP IN SOME WAY?
The whole skeleton of all his bones go snap, snap.
I WONDER IF IT HAS TO DO WITH MOLECULAR EXPANSION AND CONTRACTION OF PASSING HIS MATTER BODY THROUGH THE ROOF AND ONTO THE BED?
Yes, it does have something to do with expanded molecular structure so he can interact with matter again. It's as if they are re-tuning the body.
AT THIS POINT, IS HE LOOKING THROUGH THE COLORED LIGHT AND CAN HE SEE THE ROOM LIKE HE DID BEFORE?
Yes, exactly. He can see through the same light to the room.
WHEN DOES HE KNOW HE IS BACK ON THE BED?
He saw himself going through the ceiling and then he feels his body touch the bed. But before he actually approached the bed, he could not see that the bed was burned because the way in which he was paralyzed would not allow him to. So the (violet) light goes off and everything comes back to normal and he stands up, switched on the room light, and then he is surprised with his bed because it is so burnt. He thought he had been melted there!
WHAT ABOUT THE CEILING?
There was some sort of smoke in the ceiling still coming out.
From:
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=485&category=Science
So what we have in Photomicrograph 5 is a really good example of a very refined control on what is happening just 2 millimeters apart. The cotton remains blue in the upper part of the photoraph and yet it is scorching or turning brown only 2 millimeters away at the bottom of the photograph.
That's right. That emphasizes this is not the usual kind of heating. Let's go to the analogy of the burner on your stove. You turn the burner on high and you know that if you come within a foot or six or eight inches of the burner with the back of your hand, you can feel the heat.
Whatever this energy this is, it can keep something cool only 2 millimeters from something else that is heated up?
That's right. (Imagine that your) hand moved only 2 millimeters and you would feel the heat and it would be hotter than hell, and you move it 2 millimeters away and it would be cold. The energy that did this is precisely controlled down to micron levels.
PING . . . unusual evidence . . .
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NOTE: OUR OWN FR WEBBOT JOCKEY has said recently that Cliff High's . . . uhhh . . . output . . . has become rather . . . charitably put as . . . inconsistent or unreliable more than ever before. And, that FR's own WEBBOT JOCKEY'S software is also having to be recalibrated--PERHAPS due to some unusual sun activity messing with the randomn number generators based on atomic decay or some such.
My own take on all that is--it's all up for grabs at the moment. Some indicators with our FR WEBBOT Jockey's software seem to still concern him relative to the UFO stuff as well as quake stuff; SElection stealing stuff, USA civil war stuff etc. However, the 'timelines'--never very precise nor 100% reliable are evidently even more IFFY now.
AND, given the intensified concerns FR's WEBBOT JOCKEY'S SOFTWARE alerts him to re the UFO stuff looming on the 'near' horizon, he keeps encouraging me to keep getting the word out about such goings on as widely and intensively as possible that Christians might not be deluded by such deceptive stuff from the enemy's camp.
I think he's right. Just what we see in the MSM is enough to alert perceptive folks to a sea change looming ahead not all that far.
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Here's another doc and refs related to the broad topic:
FROM:
Human Looking Aliens Among Us Interview with Timothy Good
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_18zh.htm
PH: Okay, well, Adamski was concurrent with Eugenio Siragusa from Sicily.
TG: Another very interesting contactee. He went a bit peculiar later one, but of course its a difficult thing for people to live with.
PH: The contactee whose story I am researching now is named Maurizio Cavallo and he was one of Siragusas people. He was thirteen years old and was in Sicily.
(See http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_18zd.htm for more on Maurizio Cavallo.)
In that group, was also Giorgio Bongiovanni with Maurizio Cavallo.
(blessedistruth for the record Bongiovanni is my maiden name. Ive dreamt of a group abduction where I saw my aunts (my fathers sisters). Theyre 100 percent Sicilian. Im half Sicilian. I remember being astonished seeing them. I always assumed the ETs were interested in my Irish side.)
And Cavallo says that he actually saw the tall blonds with the blue outfits walking around Siragusas home under Mt. Etna.
TG: Ive written about a lot of those earlier Italian cases from the 1950s. They are absolutely fascinating and very, very important I think.
PH: But Timothy, he has four letters from President Eisenhower. I have one of them in my new book.
TG: Exactly. Theyre very interesting cases. And theres a new book, I gather, thats in English, about the Italian contactees of that period, which Im hoping to buy while Im here.
PH: Because Siragusa had this contact, and Adamski had this contact, why would Eisenhower write to him?
TG: I dont know, I havent seen the letter.
PH: I have it. Its genuine. There are four of them.
TG: Is he still alive?
PH: No, but his wife and son are still there and are giving out his material. Of the four letters, I have a Xerox copy of one. Its very cordial. Its got Eisenhowers name at the top, and he just says something generic like Yes, we will do the best we can, were hoping for your best interests and so forth. Its signed with his signature. Are you one of the researchers who believes that Eisenhower had contact?
TG: Definitely. But I cant comment on the letter, because I havent seen it.
PH: Then that would make sense. I can send you a copy of this letter so you can see it. What would Eisenhower be doing writing to an Italian contactee?
TG: I feel certain there is a base in the Mediterranean.
PH: So in the 1950s and 1960s there was an attempt by human-looking aliens, and lets leave Billy Meier aside, to contact humanity and that is generally dismissed because theyre human-looking.
TG: Yep. Those are the facts as they are related to us. They are our older brothers, if you like. Theyve been here much longer than we have.
PH: I agree with you. How do we change this around, since the contact has already happened?
TG: I dont know, I think its going to have to come from evidence, maybe scientific evidence of previous civilizations. We talk about Atlantis and Lemuria. Maybe some real, solid evidence will emerge sometime in the future.
For more on Timothy Good, please see:
Eisenhowers 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials The Fiftieth Anniversary of First Contact?
http://www.exopolitics.org/Study-paper-8.htm
The Story of Giorgio Bongiovanni
http://en.giorgiobongiovanni.org/history/biography/first-part.html
Excerpts
His life changed for the first time in 1976, at the age of 13, when he met Eugenio Siragusa, the notorious alien contactee from Catania, who became his Spiritual Father.
Eugenio revealed to Giorgio Bongiovanni the universal knowledge; he also followed and trained him with the cosmic doctrine that in some cases offered the confirmation and explanation of experiences that Giorgio had already lived: glowing globe sights and encounters with special Beings whose real essence would have become clear in the course of the years.
Boosted by that ardent glow that Eugenio Siragusa re-awoke in his Spirit, Giorgios dedicated himself wholeheartedly to the study of the messages that his Spiritual Father received from ancient Beings come from different worlds in order to assist to the event of creation of our solar system and in order to help the human race in its evolutionary path.
[....]
A day in April, on the 5th in 1989, around noon, Giorgio left work to go on his lunch break. He noticed a Lady that seemed to be waiting for him near his car. He was astounded by the shine radiated by this Being, because the spring sun was high in the sky.
When he got closer, he realised that the Lady was hovering above the ground. She greeted him, told him her name was Myriam, and invited him to prepare himself for future encounters. Giorgio Bongiovanni was ecstatic, but upset.
He returned home, told everything to Lorella and rushed to call Eugenio Siragusa on the phone, who calmed him down explaining him that he had been visited by the Madonna.
More apparitions followed on, more and more intense until the moment in which the Virgin invited Giorgio Bongiovanni to go to Fatima, where she would have given him a sign for the whole humanity.
On September the 2nd 1989, Giorgio, accompanied by two Spanish friends, was kneeling down, below the great oak tree that dominates the sanctuary square. He brought red roses as a gift and waited, praying silently.
As promised the Celestial Mother called him; Giorgio, gone in ecstasy, saw once more the Sublime Being that asked him if he was willing to carry part of the anguish of Her Son.
Giorgio Bongiovanni agrees to the offer of the of the Virgin, and observed two rays of light departed from her chest, decorated with a white rose, that hit the palms of his hands. Giorgio fell backwards.
His friends drew closer to assist him, and saw on the back of his hands a sort of bulge that burst little by little, as if a nail pushed from the inside to the outside, to open up a deep wound that went across the palms fully. The pain was excruciating with a profound spiritual trauma.
Giorgio went back home where Lorella and Giovanni were waiting him, already eager to share the suffering and the blessing that the miracle of the stigmatas comprises in its mystery. Their lives changed forever.
The copious daily haemorrhage could even take place more than once a day and were extremely painful. It required a few hours for Giorgio to be able to recover.
Despite the attempts, he realised that he could not carry on with his job and was forced to sell his modest but profitable business.
From then on, every spiritual, physical, human and material resource of his, including what was lent or donated to him, was totally employed in the mission entrusted to him by the Virgin.
Momento en que Giorgio recibe los estigmas en sus manos
An interview in Mexico with Giorgio Bongiovanni, the Italian stigmatized, along with journalist Jaime Maussan; his message to the world, why must we stay in contact with other worlds.
Part 2 of the interview in Mexico with Giorgio Bongiovanni, the Italian stigmatized, along with journalist Jaime Maussan; who is Giorgio, why did he accept virgin Fatimas to carry the stigmas, his message to the world, why must we stay in contact with other worlds, his fight against the mafia in Italy, his predictions. This is an extended version of the other video.
tercermilenio | September 14, 2010
Fernando Correa presenta la opinión del estigmatizado Giorgio Bongiovanni entorno a Crop Circle que apareció en Inglaterra referente al Rostro de Jesús en el 2010
20 Questions for: UFO Researcher, Paola Harris.
http://denniswhitneyufo.blogspot.com/2009/02/20-questions-with-ufo-researcher-paola.html
Question #5:
DW: Your access to those within the Vatican is very unique and important, Paola. Church leaders have (apparently) made great strides recently to prepare the Catholic religion, and people the world over, for imminent Disclosure. Is the Church prepared for this?
And just how much does the Vatican know about all of this, given they have publicly stated If aliens do exist, they would be our space brothers and sisters, which would not negate the existence of God?
PH: No. Chief Vatican Astronomer, Father Funes of the Vatican Observatory says that the presence of Extraterrestrial life means there are more souls in a universe filled with life who can give glory to God and that this doctrine does not conflict with the Catholic religion.
The fact this press release came out in the Official Vatican Newspaper LOsservatore Romano means it is approved by the Pope himself. So the Catholic church is positioning itself for what? Are the Jesuits in the Observatory in Arizona looking to the Second Coming or something else?
Father Funes calls the ETs our brothers and sisters in the article which means that he is not talking about the Zeta greys, but people who must look like us.
He also adds dogma or new doctrine into the mix when he says that Jesus did not need to die for them because aliens were not born with original sin, only humans were. I think this is pretty revolutionary and a sign of things to come.
My friendship with the late Monsignor Balducci, as referenced in my books, led me to believe that, as in all institutions, the Church was allowing people to discuss a truth they have known for centuries. Just look at early Renaissance religious art.
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Just kidding, thanx for the ping!
LOL.
THX for your kind reply.
If you have time to comment on any part of the recent posts, that would be wonderful.
*This* is the sort of post you excel at, bro.
And nobody else comes close.
Kudos.
THANKS TONS FOR YOUR ENCOURAGING AFFIRMATIONS.
You are a treasure . . .
Thanks.
I did something I extremely rarely do—show some of my posts to my 87 year old Dad.
He’s extremely biased . . . some of his cohorts also say he’s got some pride issues in his relationship with me. Sigh. He hasn’t shown that side of himself more or less to ANYONE ELSE in all my 57 years of knowing him.
Anyway—he immediately labeled it a hallucination. I noted that the marks on the ceiling and bed were real. Regardless of what caused them.
He noted that there’s nothing about any such in the Bible so he didn’t need to be the least bit concerned with it.
I noted that in a sense that was true. All we might need to know is who’s side the critters were on—i.e. satan’s. He ended up agreeing with that—perhaps for some who’s faith is weak etc.
He noted that those of weak faith were already ‘falling away.’
Anyway—was about as disappointing as I expected the conversation to be. But I had to try. His perspective is pretty endemic to many folks of all ages.
And I wanted to see first hand what his response would be to such evidence.
Humans have such a huge capacity to wipe stuff out of consideration merely on fierce bias—regardless.
The future appears to have a ton of questionable to out-right hoaxed evidence in store for the world.
Yet, obviously . . . when we say hoaxed, that’s not the same thing as saying that NONE of the evidence is “REAL”—whatever “REAL” may mean.
It seems to me the critical issue is WHO’S AT THE SOURCE OF WHAT SORT OF EVIDENCE TOWARD WHAT END OR GOAL???
Basically, anything which supports satanic globalism has to be considered anathema, imho, by authentic Christians regardless of denomination, organizational sturcture, dogma or doctrine.
Scripture, Holy Spirit; Christ’s Still Small Voice—DID CHRIST COME IN THE FLESH—etc. those criteria will be uppermost in priority. A LOT else will not matter.
It seems to me that folks who HAVE GRAVE DIFFICULTY SORTING OUT PRIORITIES AND TRUTH NOW
are going to be even more handicapped sorting priorities out in the future when the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION is in *FULL* sway.
God have mercy.
TRUE. TRUE.
THX for your kind reply.
TRUE. TRUE.
THX for your kind reply.
Did you read the long post here on what that’s about?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2590064/posts?page=173#173
I’m not sure how to answer your question without duplicating a lot of that long post. I’m not sure what you’re asking—what you have and have not read about it.
The guy was transported THROUGH the ceiling above his bed.
There were “scorch” marks on his bed linens, mattress and on the ceiling. The was transported back through the ceiling in EXACTLY the same position he went the other way the first time.
The scorch marks MAY be quite similar to those on the Shroud of Turin. There has not evidently been a direct comparison made, yet.
709.
Another great post of yourn, Quix, good job.
And when asking “Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh?” one might want to phrase that as, “Did Jesus Christ of Nazareth come in the flesh?”, see James 2.19,
http://kingjbible.com/james/2.htm
and based on Acts 4.10
followed by
Acts 4.11
and Acts 4.12
= = =
I, Joya, first learned of referring to the Lord Jesus this way through the writings of Peter Horrobin of Ellel Grange, whose website is
http://www.ellelministries.org/arise/peter_horrobin
and it’s way past my bedtime so goodnight to all, [QX, U.R. a blessing.]
Thanks for the amplification from a well experienced source.
I didn’t read the article, just your post you pinged me to. I thought marks appeared on your dad’s ceiling. Sorry. Then I went and read the article. Backwards way of doing things, I know. ;)
IMO, anyone here who doesn’t believe deception is rampant does not know God’s Word nor do they KNOW Him. God is not the author of confusion. Everything good comes from God. Nothing of this is good. I’ll add, anyone berating you because of your warning of possible deception going on leading to future events - is already deceived.
Personally, I never read up or listened to anything UFO related. I knew it’s not from God. BUT the past two weeks I have read your UFO posts. Now I see what it is all about - my mind would never have gone there on my own but VERY aware deception is real and can come in any or many forms. And it explains the apparitions, also, where we just believed because we were told to believe.
If anyone doesn’t believe deception is real and the majority has/will fall for it - they need to think of the 2008 election when the info was out there and they ignored it.
Your patience to those who rebuke you/your warnings is commendable. I have no or low tolerance for such stupidity/ignorance to think satan/the demonic isn’t thriving with confusion and deceptive tactics.
Anyone who believes.. the ETs are our brothers and sisters and adds dogma or new doctrine into the mix are ALREADY DECEIVED and do NOT KNOW GOD.
Anyone who prays to dead saints and lifts ANYONE up other than Jesus is already deceived. Is this deception real? You betcha! Anything against God’s Word is deception. And who deceived them - man. Satan deceives man but those who follow CHRIST KNOW HIM and will NOT follow another.
The Scripture telling us only a few find the narrow gate gets more real to me daily.
THANKS, Quix, for all the work you do for the Kingdom of God and exposing those against it and their tactics.
PRAISE GOD FOR YOUR KIND WORDS AND ENCOURAGEMENTS.
May HE enable me and make me worthy your kindnesses by His Grace, Blood and Spirit.
God’s best to you.
I went back and read a few more posts.
Your post #709 brings it all to the bottom line....
The future appears to have a ton of questionable to out-right hoaxed evidence in store for the world.
Yet, obviously . . . when we say hoaxed, thats not the same thing as saying that NONE of the evidence is REALwhatever REAL may mean.
It seems to me the critical issue is WHOS AT THE SOURCE OF WHAT SORT OF EVIDENCE TOWARD WHAT END OR GOAL???
Basically, anything which supports satanic globalism has to be considered anathema, imho, by authentic Christians regardless of denomination, organizational structure, dogma or doctrine.
Scripture, Holy Spirit; Christs Still Small VoiceDID CHRIST COME IN THE FLESHetc. those criteria will be uppermost in priority. A LOT else will not matter.
It seems to me that folks who HAVE GRAVE DIFFICULTY SORTING OUT PRIORITIES AND TRUTH NOW are going to be even more handicapped sorting priorities out in the future when the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION is in *FULL* sway.”
EXCELLENT wrap up, Quix!
I will add one possible qualifier however, You said:
God is not the author of confusion.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 (New International Version) 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
Time is short!
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