Posted on 07/08/2010 8:54:20 AM PDT by 0beron
Edited on 07/08/2010 9:57:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
"Vatican Officials" say a lot of things. This man who is said to be an expert in demonology also claims to be an expert on the phenomenon of intelligent extraterrestrial life. We say they are supernatural in origin and the appearance of strange and foreboding lights in the sky are unfavorable signs.
Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italiannational television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due topsychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, [Like the historical propensity for the press to be leftist deceivers who herald new phenomena like Communism as saviours of mankind.] his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.
Balducci revealed to a visiting American professional that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon quietly. My informant originally surmised that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nunciatures (embassies) in various countries.
On the surface of it, I'd have to say that the good padre gradually went senile. Now, you and I have talked before about this and the thing is that there is not the smoking gun; there are no bodies or spacecraft or technology that we can point to. Is there a smoking gun that has arisen?
Or so? The estimates that I have seen place it at Mach 5.0 or even higher.
Does Boeing, McDonnell-Douglas, et al have anything in the works? What have they already done? I understand that there are eyewitness occurances, but William of Occam had a really sharp point.
It depends on who’s testimony one is willing to accept.
Or . . . how close to such things one has worked.
Please remember
Jesse Marcel Jr is a decorated retired veteran eye? surgeon FREEPER . . . amazingly at his age . . . with IRAQ duty to his long list of credits.
And, there have been other FREEPERS over the years who have affirmed in careful clever ways, their working around such craft and beings.
Senility is not an adequate explanation.
Paola certainly would fiercely disagree. His language shows no hint of it. Nor does his picture.
“Does Boeing, McDonnell-Douglas, et al have anything in the works? What have they already done? I understand that there are eyewitness occurances, but William of Occam had a really sharp point.”
Spouse was in the Air Force. He said that the USAF has birds in the air and in process that are always way ahead in technology from the craft already in production.
Please take my name OFF your ping list for this worthles fantasy.
Please replace Nur..Judith Anne’s name with mine on your *ping* list. I am very interested in the Nephilim information.
Don't recall running up against him before.
And, there have been other FREEPERS over the years who have affirmed in careful clever ways, their working around such craft and beings.
Why the cleverness? Why not spill the beans openly?
Paola certainly would fiercely disagree. His language shows no hint of it. Nor does his picture.
Spent the last few minutes looking him up. He does appear to be classicly senile, no. So, what is it? You mentioned before that you believe that the Vatican has a department investigating UFOs?
I find these remarks most disturbing. Just because "all things are possible" for God, it does not logically follow that all things are possible for man.
Somehow these statements recall to mind the character Ivan, of Dostoyevsky's Brothers Karamazov. He said something to the effect: If there is no God, then all things are possible. This is what it means to be "beyond good and evil." [Which is the state of things once God is "killed."] And it is almost certain that Nietzsche took a page from Ivan's book. With all that followed from that, preeminently the notion of Superman — which I take to mean a man who has "evolved" unto the status of god himself, having committed the ultimate Patricide in his own mind.
God IS gloried and glorified in His "varied creation" already, and that since Day One. But the variation we see in the natural world, its splendid diversity, is not born of chaos; it is born — and sustained — only in God, Who created all things in heaven and earth by His holy Word, the Logos.
Methinks this cardinal of the Church has been imbibing from springs of post-modern progressivist thought. And it seems to me this puts him more in the company of Dostoevsky's Ivan, and Nietzsche, than it does in the ranks of Christian saints....
JMHO FWIW
(Got to get these things right!!!)
The retiring head of Lockeed Skunk Works . . . that birthed the SR71
Said we were AT LEAST 50 years ahead of everyone else
AND
that already
“IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IT, WE CAN DO IT.”
Besides that, my relative saw UFO’s coming and going routinely in his job.
You’re not on any such list.
I included you as a one time thing on this score because I figured you’d have an interesting response.
Sadly, I was wrong about that.
There's no intelligent life on other planets. I have proof. It's a photo of a Martian downloading a Madonna song.
Have added
small voice in the wilderness;
to level A of the UFO PING LIST.
If you want on levels B, C and D . . . please let me know.
When I have time to bother about the distinctions, Level A gets the least pings, level D the most—D = most anything I find personally interesting in the subject area.
I’ve been busy enough for a long time now that I mostly don’t ping unless I think it’s important enough for everyone on the list = level A
Anyway—FWIW.
Yeah, some rabid clique and other types of Nurse Rachett and other kinds of CONVINCED OF THEIR OWN BRILLIANCE and comprehensive knowledge of reality are not readily given to considering things fair-mindedly that they haven’t originally thought of themselves. Clever, that.
/sar
Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican, and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, [Like the historical propensity for the press to be leftist deceivers who herald new phenomena like Communism as saviours of mankind.] his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.
I think you’re smarter than that question would imply.
Jesse keeps a fairly low profile because at his advanced age and vast experience, there aren’t a lot of high priorities other than family etc.
He happens, BTW, to be Roman Catholic.
He’s technically incognito hereon because he chooses not to out himself. However, his screen name is not all that difficult to decipher. He’s really a wonderful Patriot.
And he did handle the Roswell foil and “I” beam etc. debris with his own hands at age 10 or 11 when his Dad Sr woke him up in the middle of the night to show him the stuff on the way to taking the first gleanings of the debris back to the air base.
I think his biases color his interpretations of the phenomena.
I don’t know that the Vatican has a formal published department investigating it.
There MUST BE some designated structure involved. I doubt it’s just a smattering of free lancers. I don’t think the Vatican functions that way. Though I’m the furthest thing from an expert on that score.
Balducci was reportedly a relatively close confident of one of the Popes. I don’t know if it was before or after they became Pope and I don’t remember which it was.
imho, folks can be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN the Vatican is one of the better informed organizations on the planet on the topic.
I GREATLY AGREE.
THX.
Could someone please elaborate on the difference?
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