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To: marshmallow; Petrosius; IrishCatholic; vladimir998

In October 1941 Harold Tittman, a U.S. delegate to the Vatican, asked the pope to condemn the atrocities against Jews; Pius replied that the Vatican wished to remain “neutral,” reiterating the neutrality policy which Pius invoked as early as September 1940.

Before the Holocaust began an International Eucharistic Conference took place in Budapest in Hungry during 1938. Cardinal Pacelli addressed the congress and described the Jews as people “whose lips curse [Christ] and whose hearts reject him even today”.

“I’m afraid that history may be obliged in time to come to blame the Holy See for a policy accommodated to its own advantage and little more. And that is extremely sad above all when one has lived under Pius XI.” - Cardinal Tisserant

You don’t capitulate with evil. The excuses given here for the church’s involvement with the Nazi’s are the same soft excuses given for its cover-up of sex abuse.

The primary driver is and has always been the protection of the church above the protection of the innocent.


80 posted on 07/07/2010 12:24:04 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt
Before the Holocaust began an International Eucharistic Conference took place in Budapest in Hungry during 1938. Cardinal Pacelli addressed the congress and described the Jews as people “whose lips curse [Christ] and whose hearts reject him even today”. Are you quoting from his address for from some other source? If from the address, you know you will have to produce the whole context.
89 posted on 07/07/2010 3:30:14 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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You wrote:

“You don’t capitulate with evil.”

Pius never did. He hid Jews in his own home. He also saved 800,000 Jews at one time or another - according to the Jews themselves.

“The excuses given here for the church’s involvement with the Nazi’s are the same soft excuses given for its cover-up of sex abuse.”

What involement? You mean like how some Protestants actually formed a Nazi Church? Thank goodness so many Catholics resisted the Nazis, hid Jews and obeyed Pius XII when he quietly urged them to.

“The primary driver is and has always been the protection of the church above the protection of the innocent.”

The Church faithful are some of the truly innocent. While Protestant bigos just sit back and whine today, Catholics led the way in saving Jewish lives in WWII. Even many Jews have admitted that Pius XII saved many, man Jews.


92 posted on 07/07/2010 3:50:11 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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