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1 posted on 06/25/2010 3:10:08 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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When speculative historical sciences meet reality.


2 posted on 06/25/2010 3:17:36 PM PDT by microgood
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Thought we’d change the title to what was published instead of, “Think the Grand Canyon *must* have been formed over millions of years? Think again.”


3 posted on 06/25/2010 3:17:37 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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The Washington state scablands were also created in a short time at the end of the last ice age when an enormous volume of water broke through an ice dam.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 3:17:42 PM PDT by DManA
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Gadzooks!

This event seems to support the Grand Canyon section Walt Brown's book.

(The entire book is online)

5 posted on 06/25/2010 3:24:44 PM PDT by skeptoid
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If these guys want to see big rock sheets and boulders move, then they should consider looking at the Devils River watershed in SW Texas after a 2 inch rain.


6 posted on 06/25/2010 3:24:53 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, you know chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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The canyon that was carved in three days:

Fossils exposed
Some of the canyon's rocks are punched with holes like Swiss cheese, and the fossils of worms and other ancient wildlife are everywhere. The rocks, typical of the limestone buried throughout central Texas, date back "111 million years, plus or minus a few hundred thousand years," Ward said.

Six three-toed dinosaur footprints offer evidence of a two-legged carnivore strolling along the water. The footprints were temporarily covered with sand to protect them as workers reinforced the spillway, but they'll be uncovered again eventually, Rhoad said.

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dinosaur footprints

Great color photos at this site

12 posted on 06/25/2010 4:19:28 PM PDT by deport
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That’s pretty impressive.

In the span of six weeks, the power of the water chiseled out 21 feet of BEDROCK for a distance of more than 2 kilometers.

One can easily ask, what COULD it (that same power) do in a period of seven to ten months - the approximate length of time of Noah’s flood.


15 posted on 06/25/2010 4:50:57 PM PDT by Wuli
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From the article:

“The abrasion of rock by sediment-loaded waters — while less significant in terms of the overall formation of the canyon — produced other features, like sculpted walls, plunge pools at the bases of the waterfalls, and teardrop-shaped sediment islands. The sediment islands are particularly significant, Lamb says, because “these are features we see on Earth and on Mars in areas where we think large flow events have occurred. It’s nice that here we’re seeing some of the same features that we’ve interpreted elsewhere as evidence of large flow events.”

—These are not things seen with the Grand Canyon. So the features of this massive flood match up well with features that we believe to be past massive floods, but don’t match up with features such as the Grand Canyon. Go figure. :-) So I don’t why this story would be used as evidence that the Grand Canyon may have formed from a massive flood.

Canyons formed quickly by flood water are shaped differently from slower formed canyons as well. Slowly formed canyons have a “V” shape to them. Here’s pics of the Grand Canyon:
http://coolrain44.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/grand-canyon.jpg
http://fireflyforest.net/firefly/2005/11/12/aerial-view-of-the-grand-canyon/

Quickly formed canyons - such as the one formed by the eruption of Mt St Helens have a “U” shape to them. Look at figure 7:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab2/arent-millions-of-years-required
(And compare to the pic someone posted above)

And, oh yeah, You smell like moldy cheese! :-)


24 posted on 06/25/2010 5:47:40 PM PDT by goodusername
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I remember reading another canyon was created parallel to Engineers Canyon. From what I remember, the parallel canyon formed in a day due to mudflow when Mt. Saint Helens erupted. The difference might be in the type of material being moved... can’t remember.


25 posted on 06/25/2010 5:59:48 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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Canyon Carved in Just Three Days in Texas Flood: Insight Into Ancient
Flood Events on Earth and Mars

Although a different sort of geological phenomenon, History Channel
had an episode on Niagara Falls (and the Great Lakes?).

It was noted that although the erosion that keeps moving Niagra Falls
“upstream” is relatively slow, there is one point at which the erosion will be
MUCH faster over a few miles (IIRC) due to the weakness of some underlying
stone formations.

(I’m not a geologist, nor do I play one on TV.)


45 posted on 06/26/2010 9:04:35 AM PDT by VOA
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