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To: TaraP
The Problem I have with ZC, is that Noahide Laws..7 Universal Laws were suppose to be taught by Adam before Noah and we saw where that led...

Um . . . the Noachide Laws are named for Noach, under whose covenant we still live to this day.

You forget that Cain killed Abel, and for 130 years (until the birth of Seth) the only human beings in the world (aside from Adam and Eve themselves) were the descendants of Cain. True, only eight (nine if you count `Og) were saved from the Flood, but why blame G-d's Laws for the fact that people didn't obey them?

If you're going to judge the Noachide Laws a failure because of how humanity turned out, then J*sus was certainly a failure as well. He lived two thousand years ago and look what's happened!

82 posted on 06/23/2010 7:49:35 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Mah-tovu 'ohaleykha, Ya`aqov; mishkenoteykha, Yisra'el!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; TaraP
You forget that Cain killed Abel, and for 130 years (until the birth of Seth) the only human beings in the world (aside from Adam and Eve themselves) were the descendants of Cain.

I know that people have a lot of different theories on this, but who do you think was the mother/mothers of Cain's children?

83 posted on 06/23/2010 8:19:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

But how is Jesus a faliure?

Christianity is the largest faith in the world, and it has especially grown in Asian and African Countries.....

Human Beings are stubborn have the potential to embrace all the 7 deadly sins at any time in their life on earth.

Pride is excessive belief in one’s own abilities, that interferes with the individual’s recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

Envy is the desire for others’ traits, status, abilities, or situation.

Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.

Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.

Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.

Greed is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.

Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.

The problem I see with Noahide and Orthodox Judaism, although I think people who believe this way are proably wonderful great individuals.. not perfect but GOD abiding.

I don’t see the *Heart of GOD* in religious doctrine
or Orthodoxy Judaism...

Put it this way.....Before Jesus came...How did the Pharisees look at other’s? Why did they seperate, ignore, even kill the *Ones* who were sick, lepors, samaritans, etc.

They were great with all this *Religious Doctrine* and trying to be *Acceptable* to GOD with there works, but where was the LOVE of GOD in there life? Read the Tanakh which I know you have, much violence in there....

Christinaity flourished because People could have a real live personal experience with GOD through the Holy Spirit.

Where there was Hate people found Love in Christ
Where there was hopelessness people found hope in Christ
Where there was selfishness people found being self less in Christ
Where people were trapped by addiction, lust and ego, people found *Freedom* in Christ.
Where there was sickness people found healing in Christ.

*The *LAW* of GOD brings *Order* to a world where *Chaos* would be the norm....

I love GOD not because of his LAWS but because of his LOVE
which penetrates my heart, consummes my mind, and gives me PEACE that surpasses all Man’s understanding.

ZC,
Did you ever feel the Love of the Holy Spirit when you were a Christian?


87 posted on 06/23/2010 12:35:10 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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