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To: mdmathis6; Theo
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command Him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him” (Deut. 18:18-19)”(Moses speaking)

Who was the prophet Moses was going to raise? What was his name? And if it were Jesus, as you allege, then by this argument, Moses put the words in Jesus' mouth and he did as Moses commanded him!

Surely you must be kidding!

The books of Moses who wrote the Pentateuch record other prophecies such as Balaam..”I have seen a star arise out of Jacob”

Balaam? You are comparing Balaam to Jesus? Oh boy!

How about Moses recording the greatest prophecy of all, made to Eve and the Serpent... that the “seed of Eve would have emnity with the seed of the serpent and that her seed would crush the serpent’s head while his heel would be bruised by it”

This is a Christian interpretation, and a hyperbolic one I must add. It just states that the humans and serpents will be at odds with each other, as is the case. We step on them and they go for our heel.

The serpent is described in Genesis as just another beast God created, except more cunning than others. There is no connection between that serpent and the satan, a loyal angel of the OT God described in a couple of passages as the heavenly overzealous prosecutor general and in Job 2 as one of the angelic hosts.

So Moses directly prophesied of Jesus

Why would he? Judaism does not see what transpired in the Garden of Eden as the "fall" of mankind nor does it see mankind in need of spiritual healing and salvation. That is something Paul fabricated and then St. Augustine took it a notch higher. But in both cases it is a gross distortion as seen by the very people who wrote the OT.

Now, some second and first century BC Jews believed the messiah was coming. That messiah was to be a human, mortal, warrior-king who would defeat Israel's enemies and re-establish the kingdom of Israel, as well as gather all the Jews in dispersion and bring them to God's promised land.

There was no need for a Jesus-like "savior" for any Jewish biblical author to write about, especially if he were to be divine but in human form and on a mission to "save" the very people he was supposed to liberate Israel from—the Greeks and Romans, for instance!

It was, after all, the Maccabean Revolt (provoked by a Hellenic despot who ruled Israel), as well as the Roman occupation of Palestine, that contributed to Jewish expectations of an imminent messianic appearance that would lead to military defeat of the Gentile oppressors.

Abraham had met Melchizidek, the priestly order of whom Jesus belonged to according to Paul.

Yes, according to Paul. I suggest you read some more on the character of Melchizedek. You may be amazed how shaky Paul's' version is.

330 posted on 06/16/2010 9:01:50 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50; Theo

The Lord was speaking thru Moses as God gave him utterance...you can decide the truth or falsity of that statement between youself and that which you consider a deity if you wish.

Moses was not saying “I” meaning “himself” would raise up...God, thru Moses was speaking of himself...Look at verse 17...”17.And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken”....then look at the rest of it...”I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command Him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him” (Deut. 18:18-19)”

Moses was quoting God who was speaking of his son...

Need further proof that this verse relates to Jesus...Look at what Jesus says...”I have not spoken on My own, but the Father who sent Me has Himself given Me a commandment
about what to say and what to speak. And I know that His commandment is eternal life. What
I speak, therefore, I speak just as the Father has told Me” (John 12:49-50).

Look at the parallels between the Mosaic prophecy in which God the father says..”I will put my words in His Mouth and he will speak what I command him... and what Jesus says” I will speak just as the father has told me!”
Jesus was demonstrating that He and only He was the fullfillment of Moses’ prophecy from Deut 18!!!
The OT in deed is shot thru and thru with the savory presence of Christ !!!!

Praise God from whom all blessings flow!!! Praise Him for the gift of Himself thru the spilt blood of Jesus and His poured out Spirit ....and his words will never pass away!!!


335 posted on 06/17/2010 7:41:12 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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