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“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command Him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him” (Deut. 18:18-19)”(Moses speaking)

The books of Moses who wrote the Pentateuch record other prophecies such as Balaam..”I have seen a star arise out of Jacob”

How about Moses recording the greatest prophecy of all, made to Eve and the Serpent... that the “seed of Eve would have emnity with the seed of the serpent and that her seed would crush the serpent’s head while his heel would be bruised by it”

How about the story Moses records of Abraham offering up to God as a sacrifice, his beloved son Isaac...with God staying his hand, “and providing a ram tangled in a bush” as a suitable sacrifice. Talk about a strong HINT, about what God was going to do some 2000 years later!

So Moses directly prophesied of Jesus as well as recorded instances where God had prophesied directly by words to other men or by symbolism(Abraham on Moriah...renaming the place Jehohvah Gyreh...”God provides”). All written at least 3500 years ago, though Abraham lived some 1500 years before the books were written down.

Abraham had met Melchizidek, the priestly order of whom Jesus belonged to according to Paul. Melchizidek was an enigma, just existing...like God winking in time...then vanishing from the Bible again until Paul mentions him in the NT. Some have argued it was Christ in a pre-incarnate form...who knows, though I suspect the answer will blow our minds someday!

So much for Moses never have spoken of Christ!


314 posted on 06/16/2010 3:10:42 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: mdmathis6; Theo
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command Him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him” (Deut. 18:18-19)”(Moses speaking)

Who was the prophet Moses was going to raise? What was his name? And if it were Jesus, as you allege, then by this argument, Moses put the words in Jesus' mouth and he did as Moses commanded him!

Surely you must be kidding!

The books of Moses who wrote the Pentateuch record other prophecies such as Balaam..”I have seen a star arise out of Jacob”

Balaam? You are comparing Balaam to Jesus? Oh boy!

How about Moses recording the greatest prophecy of all, made to Eve and the Serpent... that the “seed of Eve would have emnity with the seed of the serpent and that her seed would crush the serpent’s head while his heel would be bruised by it”

This is a Christian interpretation, and a hyperbolic one I must add. It just states that the humans and serpents will be at odds with each other, as is the case. We step on them and they go for our heel.

The serpent is described in Genesis as just another beast God created, except more cunning than others. There is no connection between that serpent and the satan, a loyal angel of the OT God described in a couple of passages as the heavenly overzealous prosecutor general and in Job 2 as one of the angelic hosts.

So Moses directly prophesied of Jesus

Why would he? Judaism does not see what transpired in the Garden of Eden as the "fall" of mankind nor does it see mankind in need of spiritual healing and salvation. That is something Paul fabricated and then St. Augustine took it a notch higher. But in both cases it is a gross distortion as seen by the very people who wrote the OT.

Now, some second and first century BC Jews believed the messiah was coming. That messiah was to be a human, mortal, warrior-king who would defeat Israel's enemies and re-establish the kingdom of Israel, as well as gather all the Jews in dispersion and bring them to God's promised land.

There was no need for a Jesus-like "savior" for any Jewish biblical author to write about, especially if he were to be divine but in human form and on a mission to "save" the very people he was supposed to liberate Israel from—the Greeks and Romans, for instance!

It was, after all, the Maccabean Revolt (provoked by a Hellenic despot who ruled Israel), as well as the Roman occupation of Palestine, that contributed to Jewish expectations of an imminent messianic appearance that would lead to military defeat of the Gentile oppressors.

Abraham had met Melchizidek, the priestly order of whom Jesus belonged to according to Paul.

Yes, according to Paul. I suggest you read some more on the character of Melchizedek. You may be amazed how shaky Paul's' version is.

330 posted on 06/16/2010 9:01:50 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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