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580 Reasons (& counting) Why You Should Leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints [II]
Life After Ministries ^ | 2007

Posted on 06/13/2010 6:28:26 PM PDT by Colofornian

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To: reaganaut

((snicker)))


1,421 posted on 06/17/2010 11:23:00 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: reaganaut
Anyone can ‘sic’ the missionaries on anybody

Ah, interesting to know. Wonder why all my devout friends and neighbors didn't think I was worth "evangelizing"?

1,422 posted on 06/17/2010 11:25:41 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: SZonian

How do they determine if someone is a “potential convert”?


1,423 posted on 06/17/2010 11:26:20 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: Elsie
I'd decode this, but my hat blew away.

I tried my hat but all it said was "Gryffindor"


1,424 posted on 06/17/2010 11:31:51 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: T Minus Four

Wonder why all my devout friends and neighbors didn’t think I was worth “evangelizing”?

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Although there is a huge cry for ‘every member a missionary’ very few LDS actually send the missionaries to people.

They may assume you have already looked into it and wasn’t interested (living in Utah) or that you know too much.

You really aren’t golden contact material. You live in Utah (know the culture), are a Born Again Christian, live your faith (not nominial) and know your Bible...they probably haven’t brought it up because you might know more than they do or ask questions they can’t answer.

So, short answer...

it could be due to:

Laziness...
assumption that you already have met with the missionaries and rejected the LDS gospel...
and/or fear.


1,425 posted on 06/17/2010 11:32:53 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Well, I’ve only been saved for less than four years and we weren’t living like Christians up until then.

Here’s a rather typical story: we moved into a new neighborhood about 10 years ago and shortly after we had a medical emergency. Turned out to be a false alarm but an ambulance was at our house briefly.

That evening a nice woman showed up with a plate of cupcakes, introduced herself, welcomed us to the neighborhood and expressed concern. “Which ward did you come from?” she asked? We of course said we weren’t LDS, and we never, ever saw her again.


1,426 posted on 06/17/2010 11:39:55 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: T Minus Four

Which ward did you come from?” she asked? We of course said we weren’t LDS, and we never, ever saw her again.

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Yep. Typical. When I lived in Orem (in Marie Osmond’s ward btw), there was one catholic in our neighborhood and most of my neighbors (which was the ward) thought it was terrible that I befriended her because she ‘wasn’t one of us’. They were shunned.

Then about a year later I moved to Provo and we had a few other non-LDS (a JW and another couple) and they were invited to everything the ward/neighborhood did.


1,427 posted on 06/17/2010 11:48:11 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: T Minus Four

It’s usually quite subjective. The neighbor or friend could just “feel” that you’re receptive to the lessons, there could have been a significant emotional event in the family such as a death, a birth, near death, etc. This is usually the opening many use to discuss the “families can be together forever” teachings of the church.

The potential convert may express an ambivalent opinion or a favorable opinion of mormons, may express a favorable opinion of some of the tenets, etc. during a conversation or discussion.

It’s not any one thing you could put your finger on I guess. Members are told to pray about it if they get the urge to proselyte or to submit a name to the ward missionary president and to get an “answer” from “god” or a prompting from the “holy ghost” about whether to do so or not.

Wish there was a better answer, but I think that pretty much covers it.


1,428 posted on 06/17/2010 11:58:59 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: T Minus Four
How do they determine if someone is a “potential convert”?

I was gonna say, "If they are breatheing." but soon realized that is NOT a requirement!

1,429 posted on 06/17/2010 12:07:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
They may assume you have already looked into it and wasn’t interested (living in Utah) or that you know too much.

And we KNOW what happens to THEM folk!

1,430 posted on 06/17/2010 12:08:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

ROFL. Too true.


1,431 posted on 06/17/2010 12:17:10 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: T Minus Four
And the final exam is probably one heck of a test.

Of course being LDS any answer will do...

1,432 posted on 06/17/2010 12:34:59 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: ejonesie22; T Minus Four

And oral defense is Hell.

For Christians, its a pass/fail.


1,433 posted on 06/17/2010 12:39:09 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: restornu

You never answered my questions....

The “”first principal of the gospel” is to know that God was a man! But I find it odd that “the first principal of the gospel” is not taught in the “most correct book on earth”, the BOM says that God is “spirit” so does the bible! Why is that?

I have the 1830 BOM and the 1981 BOM and they are different! Please explain to me how a book that “was translated by the gift and power of God” be different?
After all the BOM is suppose to be “the most correct book on earth and the keystone of our religion”.
Which one 1830 or 1981?

The 1835 ed Doctrine and Covenants, the (Lectures on Faith) section. They took the “Doctrine” out of the “Doctrine and Covenants”! Sixty-eight pages and over 20,000 words, were deleted after 1921, why? And that was suppose to be “a revelation from God”. Was God wrong or were the LDS leaders wrong?


1,434 posted on 06/17/2010 12:47:45 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Christian Conservative Black Man!)
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To: Elsie
Malachi 2:13 (King James Version)

13And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.

1,435 posted on 06/17/2010 12:54:37 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Elsie

No, you can be dead ...

and they prefer you are...

when they ask do you want to be dead dunked out of Christianity and into mormonism, you cant say NO so they take that as a YES...

“Wwll your Uncle Elsie didnt say NO...”


1,436 posted on 06/17/2010 2:18:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (d dunking)
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To: T Minus Four
I tried my hat but all it said was "Gryffindor"
1,437 posted on 06/17/2010 7:02:53 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: T Minus Four
I tried my hat but all it said was "Gryffindor"

I tried my handy dandy Sidney Rigdon hat, but all that happened was the the propeller twirled:


1,438 posted on 06/17/2010 7:50:19 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: SZonian

We are Christian County. Folks don’t need cultists on bikes with short-sleeved pressed white shirts bothering folks here. It’s just silly; pure silliness. But the mormons are nice people. It’s just severely sad how misguided they are.


1,439 posted on 06/17/2010 10:10:24 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Elsie; restornu
How sweet it is! Grape flavored if I recall...

(Now why didn't the Mormons take a daguerreotype of the 1857 Mountain Meadow Massacre and we'd have a very similar picture to this one.)

Only instead of it being a mixture of murder & suicide, like it was in Jonesville, it'd just been mass massacre murder.

The dozens of Mormons and Mormon leaders responsible for it deserved the same thing Ronnie Gardner the murderer is getting tonight.

But thousands of Mormons elected to engage in a post-Mormon murder conspiracy, becoming post-factor accessories to mass murder.

1,440 posted on 06/17/2010 11:29:19 PM PDT by Colofornian (The Lds Lament: If only the 'Restoration' had occurred in a 'Once upon a time' era...)
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