Posted on 06/13/2010 12:14:31 PM PDT by Desdemona
Readings: 2 Sam. 12:7-10, 13 Psa. 32:1-2, 5, 7, 11 Gal. 2:16, 19-21 Lk 7:368:3 or 7:36-50
A Catholic may sin and sin as badly as anyone else, wrote Archbishop Fulton Sheen, but no genuine Catholic ever denies he is a sinner. A Catholic wants his sins forgivennot excused or sublimated. One of Sheens heroes, G. K. Chesterton, put it very directly when asked why he became Catholic: To get my sins forgiven.
Mans need for forgiveness of sins is an essential tenet of Christianity that is sometimes pushed to the side, as though it might prove embarrassing. Or that it might damage a mans delicate self-esteem to admit his need for Gods saving mercy. Such avoidance of any talk of sin and forgiveness is evident in the Cross-less, Christ-less Christianity peddled by many false preachers and prophets. Yes, such charlatans do refer to this or that passage in the Bible, but they usually avoid the sort of verses we hear in todays readings.
Take, for example, the reading from the Old Testament, which describes how the great king David, who was described by the prophet Samuel as a man after [Gods] own heart (1 Sam. 13:14), chose willingly to commit adultery and murder, and thereby become a man after his own sinful desires. In doing so, David not only sinned against Uriahwhose wife he took before sending him to certain death in battlebut against God, as he admits to the prophet Nathaniel.
A significant, if unpleasant, part of the job description of each of Gods prophets, as Nathaniels actions demonstrate, was to identify sin, confront sinners, and exhort those sinners to seek forgiveness. Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and many otherseach of them identified specific sins and informed the people that if they did not repent and return to the covenant, they would be cut off from the favor of God.
This was also an essential aspect in the ministry of the greatest prophet, Jesus of Nazareth, who, as John the Baptist declared, would burn the chaff with unquenchable fire (Lk. 3:17). Immediately prior to todays Gospel reading, Jesus praised his cousin for being a true prophet who was rejected by many of the religious leaders for his ascetic lifestyle and message of repentance.
Jesus also noted the hypocrisy of those who condemned Him for eating and drinking with sinners (Lk. 7:24-35). Of course, it wasnt as though John the Baptist avoided contact with sinners, especially since his prophetic mission was to call sinners to repent of their sins and prepare for the coming Messiah. And Jesus, in dining with sinners, never apologized for revealing sin or for forgiving the sins of those who admitted their failings and placed their faith in Him.
Jesus invites sinners, the Catechism states, to the table of the kingdom: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners. He invites them to that conversion without which one cannot enter the kingdom, but shows them in word and deed his Father's boundless mercy for them and the vast joy in heaven over one sinner who repents. The supreme proof of his love will be the sacrifice of his own life for the forgiveness of sins (CCC 545). The forgiveness of sins, in fact, is the greatest demonstration of Gods power (CCC 277). Jesus host, a Pharisee, was aghast that a prophet would touch and speak to a known sinner; it was equally upsetting that Jesus forgave the womans sins. Who is this man? What the Pharisee and his companions failed to comprehend was that the prophet Jesus not only confronted sinners, but also forgave and comforted them as well.
Throughout his letter to the Galatians, the Apostle Paul emphasized that the Law (just like the prophets prior to Jesus) could identify and condemn sin, but could not forgive sin and free the sinner from the clutches of death. It is faith in Jesus Christfaith working through love (Gal. 5:6)that saves us from sin, by Gods grace. Theres no denying it: thats a very good reason to be Catholic.
(This "Opening the Word" column originally appeared in the July 17, 2007, issue of Our Sunday Visitor newspaper.)
oops. Can that be published today, June 13, 2010. Sorry about that.
Well not QUITE forgiven.. til ya do some burn time .
The law was to show us the holiness of God and our own inability to be as holy as God ..The purpose of the law is to show us our sin and our inability and lead us to Christ, the only one that could keep the law perfectly
Purification only happens if one dies in a state of sin. This is why frequent Penance is recommended - keep yourself in a state of grace and Purgatory won't take as long.
The law was to show us the holiness of God and our own inability to be as holy as God ..The purpose of the law is to show us our sin and our inability and lead us to Christ, the only one that could keep the law perfectly
We are supposed to strive for perfection. Christ didn't object to the law itself, necessarily, but how it was used by those who condemned others who didn't stick to it.
til ya do some burn time .
Thats not what I believe ... that is what THEY believe
We are ALL sinners. Even the Protestants who call each other “Saints.” I always wondered about that.
And you don’t believe in Purgatory — where all the people know they are going to heaven? They just aren’t pure enough to enter heaven yet?
Hmmmm....only two choices for you then. Heaven or Hell.
Where is penance for your own sin taught in the NT after the death of Christ?
We are supposed to strive for perfection. Christ didn't object to the law itself, necessarily, but how it was used by those who condemned others who didn't stick to it
Scripture tells us no one can keep the law.. The only purpose of the law was to reveal the character and nature of God and how far short we fall from that .Christ came to fulfill the law.He came to do what no man could do , keep it perfectly
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Heh. So true. :)
Douay-Rheims Bible
Rev1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth, who hath loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Douay-Rheims Bible
Rev22:14 Blessed are they that wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb: that they may have a right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the city.
To believe that a non biblical cleansing of our own sin by purging diminishes the sacrifice of Christ.
I am saved, and sanctified and will be glorified by the grace of God..not one bit of it my own work or suffering..
**To believe that a non biblical cleansing of our own sin by purging diminishes the sacrifice of Christ.**
Not so because God forgives the sins. How can that diminish Christ?
***We are ALL sinners. Even the Protestants who call each other Saints. I always wondered about that.***
ans. “With God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:26
No when God forgives a sin THROUGH Christ.. scripture says He does not see it anymore..
That means a forgiven sin is completely covered . We are clean and justified and made righteous before God
One does not make oneself a "saint," a church does not make one a "saint " God makes one a saint
Eph 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
hagios
1) most holy thing, a saint
The word is sometimes translated Holy ...the saved are holy just as the vessels in the temple were holy and set aside for Gods glory.
They are not holy in themselves but because of who it was that set the aside
**No when God forgives a sin THROUGH Christ.. scripture says He does not see it anymore..
That means a forgiven sin is completely covered . We are clean and justified and made righteous before God**
Spoken correctly as pertaining to the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
BTW — on this page — you forget to say that you are a baptized Catholic http://www.freerepublic.com/~rnmomof7/
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1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:
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I never seen one with a stone in their hands either.
No because the Catholic church teaches that even after the sin is "forgiven" in confession, one still must do some purgatory time for that... that means that God still sees the sin
BTW on this page you forget to say that you are a baptized Catholic http://www.freerepublic.com/~rnmomof7/
LOL I love ya Sal !
I was baptized as an adult in the Niagara river ..that was a baptism of my own desire and not of my parents.. but if you want..I will add my testimony to my home page :)
You are mistaken on your concept of the Sacrament of Reconciliation/Penance.
When God forgives the sin — He forgets the sin.
This is why I said you spoke truthfully above. It’s exactly what Catholic believe.
I think maybe you are hinging your words on the fact that their is a Penance given for repentance. Better to do the repentance here on earth than in Purgatory, no??
Or worse yet, be doomed to hell because we did not repnet and do reparation for our sins while on earth.
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