Posted on 06/02/2010 1:47:13 PM PDT by reaganaut
Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, or simply Jesus, is the central figure of Christianity. The life and sermons of Jesus form the basis of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ is recognized by believing Christians as God incarnate, the Son of God who was raised from the dead—the Redeemer of mankind—the most important figure in history.
According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. However, it seems that even the perceived Savior of the world is not exempt from LDS temple rituals. Proxy rites for Jesus Christ were performed in the Salt Lake (LDS) Temple in Utah, in April 2010. The Salt Lake Temple, located on Temple Square in the heart of Mormon-dominated Salt Lake City, was dedicated on April 6, 1893—three years before Utah became a state in 1896—and is one of the oldest of the 132 currently operating temples that are owned and maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)
New FamilySearch is the online genealogy database of the LDS Church that contains updated details of LDS temple ordinances that have been done for dead people. There are multiple listings for Jesus Christ in New FamilySearch—under different versions of his identity—which have been submitted by individual Mormons. It is not known how many times Jesus has been subjected to LDS rites because all New FamilySearch records for him—including combined records—show LDS ordinance details as “Not Available.”
On May 27, 2010, there were two similar records for Jesus in New FamilySearch which had been submitted by the same person. One listing was titled “Jesus Christian,” and showed “Jesus Christian” was born “before 1500 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1550 Jerusalem, Israel.” LDS ordinances were tagged as “Not available” on this record. The other entry was for “Jesus Cristian,” who was born “before 1502 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1539 Jerusalem, Israel.” The entry for “Jesus Cristian” gave a description of LDS ordinances, along with the name of a spouse—“Maria Magdelena.”
“Jesus Cristian” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” “Jesus Cristian” was also subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and a marriage “sealing” to “spouse” “Maria Magdelena” on April 9, 2010—all rites occurred in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristian” to get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”
While both New FamilySearch records in question lack complete birth and death data, and give imprecise “before” years of these events—the first name “Jesus” combined with the surnames “Christian” and “Cristian” (both spins on the name of “Christ”) are signs that “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” are pseudonyms for Jesus Christ.
Other indicators on the New FamilySearch records that point to Jesus Christ are the birth place, “Bethlehem,” and the death location, “Jerusalem.” (Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem and died outside the walls of old Jerusalem.) Another clue to the identity of “Jesus Cristian” is the name of his “spouse”—“Maria Magdelena,” a misspelled variant of Mary Magdalene. “Maria Magdelena” is not listed on the “Jesus Christian” record.
Because “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” have similar names and identical birth and death locations—“Bethlehem” and “Jerusalem,” they are probably the same person. Their birth and death years are similar, but not the same. The estimated dates listed for these events look like they have been fabricated. According to their New FamilySearch records, “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” were born and died in the 16th century. “Jesus Christian” lived roughly 50 years, while “Jesus Cristian” died in his thirties.
On May 27, 2010, “Maria Magdelena” was listed in New FamilySearch with her birth date as “1504 Israel,” and death date as “before 1540 Israel.” Both years are likely inventions. Along with “spouse” “Jesus Cristian,” “Maria Magdelena” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and the marriage “sealing” to “Jesus Cristian” on April 9, 2010—all rites were done in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
Mary Magdalene is described in the New Testament as a faithful follower of Jesus. Because the concept of marriage is strongly emphasized in LDS teachings, the notion that a spousal relationship existed between Jesus and Mary Magdalene is common among Mormons—although that belief is not formal LDS doctrine. There is no reliable historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was married—to Mary Magdalene, or anyone else.
LDS Church officials have publicly stated that the New FamilySearch program is a technological deterrent to improper submissions. Yet—under their very noses—on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, Jesus Christ—under a false name—two millennia after his birth, was offered Mormon salvation and an erroneous eternal marriage sealing.
Sometime late in the day on May 27, 2010, the individual entries for “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” were scrubbed from New FamilySearch—concealing the evidence that LDS rites had recently been performed for these two names in the Salt Lake Temple. The sudden disappearance of these records is a strong indication that “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” represent Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.
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Will Godot EVER show up?
Good point!
Sometimes I come across as WISEASS!
Being a wiseass does not in anyway mean you aren’t correct.
When one post from a DU type site to me it is obvious or one would be careful to look for a more credible source.
If I were to go to ACLU type that had an article against their faith that would be a strawman and picking up anything to do harm to their faith!
But then again they do act like the ARCL
Elsie, you finally know who you are...
Ya and I am waiting for godot ....
Awesome analogy. Copying it off.
what proof do you have that this is from a ‘DU type site’ other than your say so and only that because it makes your so-called church look bad.
You apparently cannot defend the topic, or the doctrine, you have failed to answer my question posted to you several times, and now you are making unsubstantiated attacks on the source rather than the content.
Now, resty, are you going to answer my question about Jesus’ ordinance work? When did He ‘take out his endowments’? Was he sealed to others while He was here on earth? Was He married to Mary, or Martha? Did He have kids? What were the ‘temple rites’ available to Him in Jerusalem?
I really want to know YOUR answers to these questions. I am trying to dialogue here.
Remember your comment that got all these questions started back on post #231 - “If such a thing did ocurred it would have been done during the time Jesus lived on earth they did have temples in those days.”
Courtesy ping to RM.
When one post from a DU type site to me it is obvious or one would be careful to look for a more credible source.
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FWIW, the site I posted from was the ORIGINAL source, primary source not secondary of the report. And the author has shown credibility in this area over and over again.
Whoa there don’t over do it lest you expose you cover.
Thanks for all you do for us...
There are 32 listings for the ancestry of Jesus Christ, include listing His wife, on the lds ancestry site. So one could conclude that His name is there He was “dead baptized”.
There are 32 listings for the ancestry of Jesus Christ, include listing His wife, on the lds ancestry site.
My first thought after I posted that was “how fast are the lds going to move to take down the information”.
Plainly, seducing spirits = illegitimacy
That's so interesting. Where was this?
Faster than superman. You should try to get a screen cap of the info.
Jesus ben the CHRIST Rabbi or Barabbas
Compact Disc #142 Pin #2233937
Pedigree Sex: M Event(s)
Birth: 1 Mar 0007 BC
Nazareth, Judea
Death: 0035
Death by cruicifixion (we think)
Burial:
Tomb Nazareth, Judea
Parents
Father: Joseph (Josephus Cleophas) ben Emmanus Alpheus of Arimatha
Disc #142 Pin #2233935
Mother: Mary (Miryam) bint JOACHIM Disc #142 Pin #2234583
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Mariamne (Miryam, Mary Magdalene) bint MAGDELA
Disc #142 Pin #2233989
Marriage: 0030
Canna
And "THE PROBLEM" again is WHAT? That we are free to openly express our views about your religion, no matter how much you want us to shut up? Gosh, that IS a problem. FR should get right on that today. In fact, let's have a boycott.
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