Posted on 05/31/2010 4:09:58 PM PDT by markomalley
Edited on 05/31/2010 4:22:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
CAIRO
(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...
“Civil marriage alone, without a religious ceremony, is not recognised in Egypt.” This is the key fact. If remarriage requires religious sanction, then I can see how the Coptic church’s position interferes with the legal right to remarry. The solution is to permit a civil marriage without religious sanction, which is the way we do in the US. That would uphold the civil right to remarry while keeping out of the religious affairs of the Coptic church.
The interference in the Coptic church was the point. It is all part of dhimmitude.
Is this in the case of divorce or the death of a spouse?
I believe divorce...and I believe there is an exception in the Coptic Church for cases of adultery.
Interesting.
Who are the Copts in communion with now? I thought they joined the Eastern Orthodox recently.
To many pundits, this problem of caesaropapism is one of the driving forces behind Krill's overtures to the Vatican.
The Copts wouldn't be "in communion" with anybody, as in be under the authority of anybody.
The Copts are part of the Patriarchate of Alexandria, one of the original three Patriarchates in Christianity (along with Rome and Antioch...Constantinople was elevated to a Patriarchate at the First Council of Constantinople, 381 AD, and given the second place of honor behind Rome, while Jerusalem, the Mother of all Churches, was elevated to Patriachate status at the Council of Chalcedon, 451 AD)(One might ask, as an aside, why Jerusalem was not considered a Patriarchy originally: that has to do with the Roman persecutions that dispersed the Christian populace still during apostolic times)
There are three subdivisions within the "Coptic" world, as far as I know.
The funny part about this is that all three divisions call their respective patriarch "Pope"
The Copts reject their characterization as monophysites, using the term "miaphysitism" to describe their beliefs (rather than His humanity being absorbed in His divine nature, His nature, while being one, contained both the divine and human characteristics). There have been discussions regarding this theology in recent years, and perhaps you read something along those lines, as a rapprochement is very possible.
Now THAT was a really good description. Thank you!
I knew that there were at least two “Coptic” churches, and that one was in communion with the Eastern Orthodox. Didn’t you that one was with Rome.
Does this affect all three?
The one in communion with Rome is very small compared to the other ones.
Does this affect all three?
Well, the one in communion with the EO and the one in communion with Rome already accept the hypostatic union, so it wouldn't be a direct issue. The OO one would likely establish communion with one or both of the others; whether they were to merge into one or not is a separate issue (that is of secondary importance...)
LOL I meant the article about forcing the Copts to allow remarriage.
The article doesn't say, but I would think that such a thing would be offensive to any of them. And, yes, I think it would apply to all religions.
Funny part, though, is that there is also an Anglican diocese in Egypt...and I would bet that it would be far easier to accomplish through the Anglicans.
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