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To: Outlaw Woman
You were saying ...

Sorry for the confusion but the cult is listed in the title of the article “UFO Cults are Flourishing...”.

Okay, that's a "generalized description" -- not a cult group. For example, "the Raelians" are a cult group, but a "UFO cult" is not a cult group -- but a "generalized description".

I should also clarify my statements, too -- a little bit further. There are a lot of people who will hold to "opinions" that may match the Raelians, in certain areas and in certain ways -- but the fact that they hold to those opinions that may "match" the Raelians does not mean that those people are "in a UFO cult group". Not at all.

All that is happeing there (with those particular people I just described) is that they "hold a worldview" that matches the worldview of the Raelians.

There happen to be FReepers here who will maintain and argue for -- some of the same things that the Raelians may believe and what they maintain (not everything, but a lot of it, at least the generalized "idea" anyway). But, that doesn't make those FReepers members of a cult group and they can't be said to be in a "UFO Cult" ... not at all.

These FReepers do not have a "Biblical worldview" but that doesn't make their own worldview (which I believe is wrong, according to the Bible) -- a "cult".

The actual cult groups that are mentioned here -- are Streiber's Communion support groups, the Raelians and the Jesusonian Foundation.

Now, are you saying that it's one of those that are mentioned... one of those three? If not one of those three, then which one, in particular, is this person a member of?

And again, just believing in UFOs is not a matter of being in a cult group. It's a "worldview" outlook, but not a "cult" ...

I should mention that there are Christians who believe that these reports of UFOs have a "Biblical basis" and there is a "Biblical understanding" to them. And many Christians think they are "real" and not imaginary.

I'm sorry it this is starting to sound confusing, but I've been all through it and it's not simply that someone belongs to a "UFO cult" -- because they believe in UFOs and that there are extra-terrestrial, very advanced civilizations coming here and visiting mankind and earth, and are abducting people, and are experimenting on them, and are trying to interact with people. That's not a cult group. That's a "worldview" that many (including many FReepers) have taken on, and is part of their "belief-system" -- not a "cult group".

And, by the way, Heaven's Gate is (was) a cult group.

11 posted on 05/25/2010 11:10:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler; Outlaw Woman

It is one thing to say that, given the vastness of the Universe (heck, you can look at the vastness of our little galaxy), the probability of species who are both intelligent and able to travel across interstellar distances is > 1.

Include the infinite footprint of the Universe and the probability is also infinity.

But it is another thing to suggest a single set of these aliens has contacted someone and directed them to do something, especially something awful.

Unless and until we have a landing like in “To Serve Man” or “The Day The Earth Stood Still” or, for that matter like “War of The Worlds,” “Independence Day,” “District 9” or “Mars Attacks!” or then the idea that a 3rd kind encounter has occurred is ridiculous.


12 posted on 05/25/2010 11:31:43 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: Star Traveler

......”because they BELIEVE in UFOs and that there are extra-terrestrial”......

I think it is important that what one believes or wants to believe is important to consider.....one might imagine possible in Extra Terrest. but the reality is there has not been evidence this is so.

Anyone can Believe in anything but it does not mean it is so. Some of the illusion games and such you would swear are moving or turning a certain way ...but they are stationary...our eyes view things a certain way so when you add belief into the equation that hightens the expectation levels substantially.

Add in the idea of raising ones consciousness thru the various levels then one can believe they are visiting planets or as is stated in the New Age experience...astral-projection...and believe they are actually doing so...but the reality is it’s a fantasy.


14 posted on 05/25/2010 11:38:29 PM PDT by caww
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