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Former Mormon looks forward to baptism at Easter vigil
Arkansas Catholic (Little Rock Diocese Official Paper) ^ | April 3, 2010 | Malea Hargett

Posted on 05/23/2010 12:54:56 AM PDT by Colofornian

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From the article: She then started to question the Mormon teachings. "Over and over they would say 'This church is true. This church is true.' I couldn't count how many times I would hear this. They were grateful for (LDS founder) Joseph Smith ... I always sat there as a kid wondering 'who am I worshipping? Am I worshipping "this church is true" or Joseph Smith?' There was no emphasis on Christ....I questioned the truth of their doctrines," she said. "And that was a big no-no." Reeves said she felt that if she didn't conform, she was not welcome in the Mormon church.

Many Mormons recite D&C 1:30 in the testimonies they bear, believing the Mormon church to be the "only true church on the face of the earth." The church becomes a substitute for Christ; evidenced by First Presidency rep Marion G. Romney, who stated in the 1960s that the Mormon church was "the way, the truth, and the life"-- a description that the Bible reserves for Jesus Christ -- not any church. And the fact that Lds sing hymns to Joseph Smith, like the one, Praise to the Man, shows how Smith is often substituted for Jesus.

Other Lds prophets have said there's no getting into heaven minus Smith's consent. Lds apostle Bruce McConkie's, whose infamous book, Mormon Doctrine, has made the news this week by the annoucement it won't be reprinted...said in that book that there's no salvation without Joseph Smith.

From the article: "I have people tell me, 'I am a sinner too.' No one is above me. I always felt people were above me in the Mormon church. I don't feel that here. I look forward to Easter. ...I worried so much about where I am going to go when I die. Now, learning the doctrine of the Catholic Church, I don't worry about that. I finally feel peace."

Jesus said, in his Prayer to Heavenly Father, that eternal life was knowing Him and knowing the Father. (John 17:3). Knowing Him is a relationship. A NOW relationship. Eternal life is described by Jesus as something possessed NOW (see John 3:36; 5:24) -- not something that happens ONLY upon death.

When you get engaged to someone, you related to them NOW. The marriage may occur LATER, but the relational engagement is NOW. Thus, so it is with relating to the Christ.

From the article: While her LDS baptism was "voided," the Catholic Church would not have recognized her baptism in the Mormon church as valid anyway. The Vatican has declared Mormon baptisms invalid because they don't have the traditional understanding of the Trinity. The LDS church considers Jesus and the Holy Spirit as children of the Father and the Heavenly Mother.

1 posted on 05/23/2010 12:54:57 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

It’s interesting that she was attracted to the person of Christ and worked “backward” from that point to the Trinity, etc.


2 posted on 05/23/2010 1:04:16 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
It’s interesting that she was attracted to the person of Christ and worked “backward” from that point to the Trinity, etc.

Now I know some might be tempted to point to her immoral track record, and conclude, "Of course, she was disenfranchised from the Mormon church...why should they sanction ongoing immorality?" But we need to remember that the type of person Jesus went out of her way to address was the woman at the well, who was working on partner #7 at the time. That, along with a prostitute or two who was converted to Him.

The gospel is for sinners. Jesus says He didn't come to save the righteous & those who claim that didn't need Him to heal them; rather He came for us sinners. Glory be to our Spiritual Physician. By His stripes [that drew blood], Isaiah said in chapter 53, we are healed.

3 posted on 05/23/2010 1:20:38 AM PDT by Colofornian
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"The gospel is for sinners. Jesus says He didn't come to save the righteous & those who claim that didn't need Him to heal them; rather He came for us sinners. Glory be to our Spiritual Physician. By His stripes [that drew blood], Isaiah said in chapter 53, we are healed."

Amen.
4 posted on 05/23/2010 2:26:15 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Colofornian
"Over and over they would say 'This church is true. This church is true.' I couldn't count how many times I would hear this. They were grateful for (LDS founder) Joseph Smith ... I always sat there as a kid wondering 'who am I worshipping? Am I worshipping "this church is true" or Joseph Smith?' There was no emphasis on Christ."
5 posted on 05/23/2010 4:32:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Colofornian

HA ha!

The MORMONs lost one of their own BICs to the Catholics, instead of the reverse!

Isn’t GOD wonderful!


6 posted on 05/23/2010 4:33:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Colofornian
The gospel is for sinners.
 
The gospel is for sinners.
 
The gospel is for sinners.
 
The gospel is for sinners.
 
The gospel is for sinners.
 
The gospel is for sinners!!!
 
Like me...

7 posted on 05/23/2010 4:36:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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He didn't come to save the righteous & those who claim that didn't need Him to heal them...

HE also didn't come for those who want to help Him out by being as 'good' as they can be or 'doing' as much FOR Him as possible.

8 posted on 05/23/2010 4:38:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Colofornian

Perhaps you and/or any LDS folks reading your thread may be interested in this one

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=1

with a lot of quotes on our era from an LDS website.


9 posted on 05/23/2010 5:00:23 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Elsie

INDEED.

like me, too.


10 posted on 05/23/2010 5:01:01 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Colofornian

Very interesting and thought provoking article. I hope the Catholic church helps her find some peace and stability for herself and her son.


11 posted on 05/23/2010 5:28:31 AM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: Colofornian

The only reason she attended the Mormon church was because her mother insisted. Yet her mother was not involved in church. She doesn’t mention a father anywhere. She simply did not have a strong loving father to guide her and now she does.


12 posted on 05/23/2010 5:50:39 AM PDT by timeflies
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To: Colofornian

They can void your baptism?

That’s a new one to me!


13 posted on 05/23/2010 5:55:13 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Colofornian
There was no emphasis on Christ (LDS)

And there we have it a summary of lds teachings. Bless this woman and her family.

14 posted on 05/23/2010 7:02:53 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: vladimir998

They can void your baptism?

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Yes they can. When I left, one of the letters I got stated that ALL blessings including baptism and my ‘patriarchal blessing’ had been revoked.


15 posted on 05/23/2010 7:57:34 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Quix; Elsie

And me.

The LDS church was great at changing my behavior, but it couldn’t change my heart, only Christ could.

It took me awhile to realize that no matter how ‘worthy’ I was by LDS standards, I was still a sinner and I couldn’t save (or even contribute) myself. I could never be ‘worthy’ in God’s eyes even if I was temple worthy in the LDS church.

Once God got that through my thick skull, it wasn’t long until I left and found a saving relationship with Jesus.

Praise God for that.


16 posted on 05/23/2010 8:00:35 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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PRAISE GOD INDEED!

THX.


17 posted on 05/23/2010 8:51:57 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: bone52; Saundra Duffy; urroner; JDW11235; Normandy; killermedic; Paragon Defender

In 2001 she got pregnant out of wedlock, but the baby was stillborn. Even though she had a rocky relationship with the local Mormon church, she approached them about seeking a funeral for her child.

“The deacons and the bishop refused me a service in the sanctuary because I was unwed,” she said. “I was unclean because I was not married.”

She was then told she would not get to heaven.

“That was a crushing blow,” she said. “At that point, I spiraled into a deep depression. They pretty much damned me to hell.”

Then she was even more saddened when the church leaders brought her before a church court, with a judge and jury, and “dis-membered” her.

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Wow wonder what Ward she was in, in my Ward the mother and daughters who are converts for about a few years both daughters have had children out of wedlock and both babies were given a blessings and the one daughter have given talks.


18 posted on 05/23/2010 1:47:05 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Tainan; Burkean; timeflies

Strange she never mention if she was ever told about the Chruch LDS Family Services

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19 posted on 05/23/2010 2:04:28 PM PDT by restornu
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https://www.itsaboutlove.org/ial/ct/eng/site/pregnant/what-are-my-options/adoption/the-choice-i-made/


20 posted on 05/23/2010 2:08:36 PM PDT by restornu
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