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Disclaimer: I am former LDS and "anti" mormonism. I post articles from official mormon sources that often relate to current discussions taking place on the forum to provide a means for open discussion in the Religion forum.
 
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1 posted on 05/19/2010 9:41:03 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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2 posted on 05/19/2010 9:41:54 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have discovered Campbell's Senior alphabet soup....it comes in large type.!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Just so it is clear (seems to be a problem getting this fact), this article is from an LDS owned site.
I love the spin in the article. I can’t prove I am 45, you will just have to take my word for it, because you can’t prove I am not.


3 posted on 05/19/2010 10:04:20 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: greyfoxx39
Personally I believe that too many of the religious discussions around here become confrontational and damaging to our, hopefully, common goals.

All of us, Jew and Christian, share an enemy who is eager to cut our throats.

There are a few people around here who just need to CHILL OUT!

4 posted on 05/19/2010 10:12:26 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: greyfoxx39
I have respect for the way many Mormons lead their family lives and their tendency toward political conservatism and loyalty to country.

But I'd give better odds on finding Middle Earth or Narnia than physical proof that the Book of Mormon is anything but the fantasies of one Joseph Smith.

10 posted on 05/19/2010 10:40:38 AM PDT by katana (Part Neanderthal, and proud of it!)
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To: greyfoxx39
I accept the current state of DNA research by those who are experts in the field, adding that it is premature, at best, and irresponsible, at worst, to claim that DNA research may be employed to prove or disprove the authenticity of the Nephite scripture.

To the indoctrinated mormon this must seem confusing. Throughout the history of mormonism the Amerindians were announced to be THE descendants of the hebraic origined Lamanites. Ash also glosses over that the DNA studies are confirmed by numerous other studies - anthropological and linguistic - which clearly show no hebraic/egyptian culture or influence at all on the Amerindians. Add to this the abysmal LACK of archaeological findings to support even the hail mary pass of the Limited Geography Theory (let alone its gross contradiction of the teachings of the prophets and church over the history of mormonism) - the proof becomes overwhelming - the book of mormon is a piece of fiction.

Mormon apologists make many claims as to the authencity of the bom story - yet these claims clash against each other. Here Ash is defending the LGT against popular mormon apologist Rodney Meldrum who is using the DNA to support the traditional N. American model. This is challenging BYU sponsored LGT theorist Sorenson, who holds that N. America could NOT have been part of the bom lands.

Alternative locations have also been put forth including multiple variations on the LGT and N. Am theories, Polynesia, Malaysia, Baja California and even Africa.

The classical mormon testimony is that the bom is 'true'. If it is true, then there should be no loss of archaelogical finding as well as related science to support the history it claims within its covers. Only fairy tales speak of fictional lands - just like the lands the bom talks about.

21 posted on 05/19/2010 10:56:02 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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What would be far more helpful would be the genetic comparison between the descendants of Abraham and the Native Americans. Unless I am misinformed, the Mormons believe that the Native Americans or Indians are remnants of the lost tribes of Israel. If that is so, then I would expect that there would be genetic evidence supporting that belief. Since Indians are Mongoloids and Jews are Caucasoids, I would expect that the genetic evidence would disprove the factious Book of Mormon.
34 posted on 05/19/2010 1:47:55 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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Thin-skinned (emotional, whiney or mercurial temper) posters are the disruptors on open threads.

Who posted this thread then? :-)

59 posted on 05/20/2010 4:49:55 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: greyfoxx39

Neither does DNA prove Christian writings so whats your point?


62 posted on 05/20/2010 4:53:28 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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