All Roads Lead to Heaven? - Kathleen Parker Does Theology

Christian Post ^ | 05/14/2010 | R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

[the_daug]

All Roads Lead to Heaven?

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. Mat 7:14 How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!

[HighlyOpinionated]

Parker needs to stick to what she really knows and leave the theology to the Theologians.

If she hasn’t studied the Bible, which she’s indicated by her ignorance of Scripture, well, no use in arguing with the uninformed.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13407a.htm

[the_daug]

Evangelicals under 30 believe that there are many ways to God, not just through Jesus.

Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

You don't go to hell for your sins, you go for rejecting the provision provided for your sin.

[count-your-change]

Aw come on! Katy saw “All Dogs Go to Heaven”. Twice!

[SeekAndFind]

Parker needs to stick to what she really knows and leave the theology to the Theologians.

Kathleen Parker is one of those pro-Republicans ( because she is ) who dislikes Sarah Palin.

[Aarchaeus]

Matt 7:13,14---Enter in at the narrow gate; for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be who go in that way; because narrow is the gate, and hard is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

So tragic that so many people fall into the trap of universalism, or whatever else they may call it, and never even try to learn and understand the Word of God.

[tx_eggman]

Note to Katherine:

As I've stated previously on this forum ...

The sticking point of Christian faith is what theologians call "the scandal of the particular". That is , that there is only one way to God.

Jesus made the same claim - "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father but by me."

I don't think my belief system is at odds with this. I believe that human beings have an eternal soul. I've also come to believe that there are many paths to many "Gods".

If you want to wind up with what Budda had to offer ... walk that path. If you want what the pantheism of the Hindu belief system offers... go right ahead. If you want to march to your own drummer, following as best you can your concept God, knock yourself out.

The "scandal of the particular" though, means that if I want to have relationship with the Being that Jesus referred to as "Father", I have to acknowledge my brokenness and need for forgiveness and entrust Jesus with my life.

The only way to that God and what He offers is through faith in Jesus. The claim of the God that Jesus called "Father" is that He offers eternal life in relationship with Him. The second person of this triune God demonstrated the validity of this offer by laying aside His own diety and becoming a man, offering himself as the sacrifice for my sin and then, as the firstborn from the dead, being raised by the Father to the same eternal life He offers to all. As an added bonus, because I'm forgiven, I can and do have an ongoing, cognitive, emotional relationship with this God right now.

So, at the end of this 70 or 80 year part of the life of your eternal soul, if you've followed the path of a God other than the one Jesus called Father, you may or may not get what your God offered, I can't vouch for their ability to deliver. You won't, however, get what the God that Jesus called Father has offered, in fact, since you wanted something else, you'll be separated from that God forever. What ever the result, look into the mirror for the one responsible for it.

[Tennessee Nana]

Jesus said to Kathleen Parker, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father, except by me.” John 14:6

[OldMissileer]

OK. I'm going to leave the realm of logical argument and use the trick of name calling: Parker is nothing more than a simpering fool.

[gedeon3]

She will get a horrible surprise when her time to meet God comes.

[Talisker]

Kathleen Parker is one of those pro-Republicans ( because she is ) who dislikes Sarah Palin.

Exactly. Hillary's game (and if you don't think she's behind this build-up to the presidential election you're not paying attention) will be to try to split the conservatives along the evangelical fault line, in it's effect on both religious and political theory.

People need to remember that the difference in beliefs between two Christians or two conservatives is absolutely nothing compared to the split between a conservative and a Rat - which is literally the difference between freedom and slavery.

Watch - a Christian conservative non-evangelical Perot-type Republican Party splitter will arise, and if he loses the primaries he might run third party. Perot got the Clintons elected before, and the same strategy is already in use now to split the conservatives.

So beware infighting, unless you like the sound of "President Hillary Clinton."

[LibLieSlayer]

Self censored.

LLS

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Jesus answered and said unto them, I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me. - John 14:6

Seems pretty simple to me.

[beethovenfan]

Jesus talked about hell more than anyone else in the Bible. I guess He didn’t know what He was talking about, according to Kathleen.

[anniegetyourgun]

It is the “philosophy” of our day...and yes, the younger generation has bought that lie in droves. After all, if Oprah says that “all paths lead to God” - it must be more reliable that the Word of God, eh?

[xzins]

Hey, folks.

Dr Mohler’s input on the Parker article which we’ve been discussing.

He would have been in good company had he sat in on our discussion. :>) He echoed most of our points.

Now, about the young evangelicals throwing off the belief that Jesus is the only way to salvation. I say it’s an artifact of the research and that, without seeing the research and the questions as asked, we really shouldn’t be assuming that someone as hostile to Christianity as Kathleen Parker would haven’t distorted something to make her point.

We have also found in the past serious problems with the definitions of “protestant”, “evangelical”, and “faith” as used in opinion research. For example, in my experience, “protestant” is generally held to be anything that is not Roman Catholic or Orthodox.

[Grunthor]

Jesus is a liar.

- Kathleen Parker

[WorldviewDad]

I have not seen the research that was used for the Parker article but would not be willing to discount it(the research) to much. I have been working with youth for several years and have seen several research articles during that time that point out that most children brought up with in “evangelical” churches have walked away from the faith. Different studies have put the number from 74% to 92%. In fact I just found a Pew Forum survey from 2008 that states 57% of “evangelicals” answered the survey that “many religions lead to eternal life”.

I do believe that we as Christians are missing a great opportunity to impact the next generation. I see part of the problem is that for the most part we have handed the current generation of youth over to the secular schools (around 90% of church kids) to educate them and then we try to unteach them what they learned all week in school and reteach them the scriptures in a couple of hours a week...if you can get them to attend church, Sunday school, and youth group. Most of the kids that I have worked with in youth groups see the contradiction of having their parents send them to school where they learn that there “is no God” and then the same parents bring them to church on Sunday “to learn about God”. We are raising up a generation that wants the truth but are getting mixed messages from the church, and the schools are claiming to be teaching from the truth.

Our focus needs to be on raising up godly children in the way scripture instructs us...not by just offering “game time” and calling it “children's church, youth group, kids club, etc.”

Sorry if this seems long winded...but as a father of seven that wants to see all of my children make it to heaven when the time comes...this is very close to my heart.

[xzins]

I would never discount your point that we should be educating our own children. For whatever reason, evangelical Christians chose public schools decades ago and have pretty much hung with it...probably for financial reasons.

However, the point about wanting to review the research is sound. There really have been problems with both the research methods and with the definitions of various terms in past research that I’ve looked at.

I’d just feel more comfortable knowing what I really was dealing with so far as the research is concerned. It’s not as if I’m so confident in Kathleen Parker that her word on the subject should be the final word.