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To: Mad Dawg
I would venture to say that most conciliar or papal declarations and definitions were responses to disagreements, to situations where a refinement or clarification was needed or at least requested.

HMmmm...

I'd think that the TRUE church that held the KEYS and had the AUTHORITY would get it RIGHT from the getgo.

411 posted on 05/17/2010 3:27:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I'd think that the TRUE church that held the KEYS and had the AUTHORITY would get it RIGHT from the getgo.

The TRUE church DID...

443 posted on 05/17/2010 6:34:27 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Elsie
I'd think that the TRUE church that held the KEYS and had the AUTHORITY would get it RIGHT from the getgo.

Well, if you alter our claims, from what they are to something easier to argue against you can win the argument. It will be a victory against shadows, not reality, but for some the appearance of victory is enough.

I think John 16:12-13 is relevant. Our capacity affects the 'tempo' of disclosure and the Spirit 'guides', rather than yanks, us into the truth.

487 posted on 05/17/2010 10:40:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawg ("Be kind to everyone you meet, for every person is fighting a great battle" -- St. Ephraim)
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