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Non-Catholics Trying to Lie Their Way into Teaching at Ontario Catholic Schools
Life Site News ^ | May 10, 2010 | Thaddeus M. Baklinski

Posted on 05/10/2010 1:30:27 PM PDT by NYer

TORONTO, May 10, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Despite the fact that persons must prove themselves to be practicing Catholics to be considered for a teaching position within the Catholic school boards of Ontario, several media reports have surfaced saying that some individuals are lying to not only board officials but even to Catholic priests about heir adherence to the faith, in order to land a job.

A Toronto-area woman, who did not want to be identified, told the Canadian Press that she and other teachers who are non-religious are attending Mass every Sunday in hopes of getting a pastoral letter of reference which is a requirement for being hired by a Catholic school board.

"I don't particularly like going (to Mass) every Sunday, but if this is what I have to do, then I'll do it," said the woman. "I just really want to be in a career. I just want it so badly."

She also admitted to having gone to confession and lying to the priest after having read about the sacrament in a catechism book.

Acknowledging a sense of guilt about the deception, the woman nevertheless stated that, "I know what I believe in. I support abortion. I support gay marriage. I'm going through what I have to go through to get a job. I know it sounds bad."

"You feel really helpless," said the teacher. "I thought, why not try this option. It was kind of out of desperation ... not that I think it will work for sure, but it's to have another option."

"I haven't gone for my, um, what do you call it, the bread thing yet...Communion. I'm nervous about it," she added.

Frank McIntyre, a researcher for the Ontario College of Teachers (OCT), said the glut of teachers looking for fewer and fewer jobs has left teachers desperate to find work.

According to the OCT, there were 12,200 new teachers in the province in 2009, but only about 5,000 positions.

"What you can see, fairly quickly, is you have twice as many teachers as you do job opportunities and that has been going on for a number of years now," said McIntyre.

"We're getting a backlog of qualified teachers who are not able to get teaching jobs."

A 2009 report from the education advocacy organization People for Education revealed that up to 335 Ontario schools face closure in the next three years because of declining enrolment, which stems from the province's low birth rate.

Plummeting birth rates have already resulted in the closure of over 400 schools in Ontario this decade, and the Ontario Ministry of Education revealed that this year total elementary and secondary school enrollment has dropped by nearly 100,000 students from 2002 numbers.

Statistics Canada has predicted that student enrolment in elementary and secondary schools will drop by 500,000 in the next 10 years.

Tyler Charlebois, a spokesman for the Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities told the Canadian Press that the ministry recognizes the problem of too many teachers and too few students, and will begin limiting enrollment in teachers' colleges starting on April 1, 2011.

"We are going to be reducing and limiting teacher-ed spaces by 1,000 spaces," said Charlebois.

John Del Grande, a trustee with the Toronto Catholic District School Board, told the Toronto Star that the Catholic board is "just as strained for new jobs as the public one," but he wouldn’t be surprised to find that people were returning to the faith or converting for the jobs.

“If you look at the pool of teachers, I’m sure there are ones that are Catholics in name only. At the end of the day I hope they are there to teach the kids and live on with the values that the Catholic Church stands behind,” he said.

Angela Kennedy, chair of the Toronto Catholic District School Board said she “hasn’t run across” anyone who has converted to Catholicism for the sole purpose of getting a job.

“I haven’t met anybody who is even contemplating doing that,” she told the Star. “In my position, would people tell me that? I’m not exactly the person people would tell.”

Kennedy said converting to Catholicism is a very long process, and elementary teachers must attend all liturgies and be Catholic role models for the students.

"We have an expectation that anyone we're interviewing is Catholic and we're also looking for the pastoral letter," said Gary Poole, the superintendent of human resources for the Toronto board, adding that the interview process carefully and critically examines each applicant.

The right of Catholic school boards to insist that teachers and others who work directly with the children in the separate school system be practicing Catholics, is protected under the Ontario Human Rights Code, a subsection of which states that this right is guaranteed by the Constitution Act of 1867.

This right of Catholic schools to hire Catholic teachers was challenged last September when the Wellington Catholic District School Board had a human rights complaint filed against it because of their policy of only hiring teachers who are active Catholics.

The complaint was filed with the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal by Mr. Jesse Lloyd, 36, an out-of-work, non-Catholic teacher, whose application to the board was unsuccessful. Lloyd graduated with a teaching degree in 2006 and had worked short-term contract positions with public boards in Hamilton and Guelph.

When he applied to the Wellington Catholic board in 2006 and was not given an interview he filed his complaint contending that the board's hiring policy was discriminatory.

The Wellington Catholic District School Board's Director of Education Donald Drone responded to the complaint by insisting that the board has a legal right to focus their hiring on active Catholics, and that this is essential to the very purpose of the Catholic school.

"It is the constitutional mandate of Catholic schools to provide Catholic education to Catholic students," Drone stated. "It is critical that teachers who deliver this educational program to its students be Catholic."

Catholic school boards, he said, have the "preferential right to hire Catholic teachers who can fulfill the responsibilities of a teacher in a Catholic school and who are knowledgeable about and committed to the values, goals and obligations of the Catholic school system."


See related LSN articles:

Massive School Closures in Ontario Imminent Due to Low Birth Rate
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/nov/09111011.html

300 Schools to Close in Ontario because of Birth Rate Crash
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08042404.html

Catholic School Board Faces Human Rights Complaint for Limiting Teachers to Catholics
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/sep/09091113.html

Ontario Catholic School Board Defends Its Right to Focus Hiring on Catholics
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/sep/09091604.html


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: canada; catholic; education; ontario
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1 posted on 05/10/2010 1:30:27 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Ping


2 posted on 05/10/2010 1:30:46 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

What is truly a shame is that the non-Christians likely will not have any problem blending in.

Due to sensitivity on FR today particularly ... I will make the disclaimer that such a problem would not be isolated to Catholicism — there are plenty of pretend Protestants out there too, and the non-Protestants blend in all-too-well with supposedly practicing Protestants.

Sin remains universal.

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 05/10/2010 1:33:30 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: NYer

Woman, pretending to be Catholic said: “ I know it sounds bad.”

Yep. Except to Satan, lady. He loves what you’re doing.

I know a principal who once lied about being a practicing Catholic to get a job in a Catholic school. He left the next year and claimed the Catholic school wasn’t nice to him because he was a Protestant (when he had told everyone at the Catholic school he was a Catholic).


4 posted on 05/10/2010 1:34:06 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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"I haven't gone for my, um, what do you call it, the bread thing yet...Communion. I'm nervous about it," she added.

As well she should be about something as serious as Communion. Here is a suggestion for her regarding partaking in Communion: DON'T. At least not until she can be a Catholic in heart as well as in name.

5 posted on 05/10/2010 1:40:07 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: All
Related threads:
OPEN THREAD] Jobless, non-religious teachers to turn Catholicism in attempt for employment
Catholic schools want your tax dollars. Real bad.

6 posted on 05/10/2010 1:41:25 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Meanwhile qualified Catholics like myself go without employment.

This really frustrates me. These jobs are for Catholics. There’s a whole secular school system out there. If you don’t like Catholicism, go there.


7 posted on 05/10/2010 1:45:52 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: vladimir998

This would bother me because I converted from being a Protestant. Why lie when some of us did the hard work?


8 posted on 05/10/2010 1:47:03 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: NYer

I say quiz them on the catechism. That should separate the wheat from the chaff!


9 posted on 05/10/2010 1:47:29 PM PDT by Juana la Loca
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To: NYer

Acknowledging a sense of guilt about the deception, the woman nevertheless stated that, “I know what I believe in. I support abortion. I support gay marriage. I’m going through what I have to go through to get a job. I know it sounds bad.”
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According to the OCT, there were 12,200 new teachers in the province in 2009, but only about 5,000 positions.

“What you can see, fairly quickly, is you have twice as many teachers as you do job opportunities and that has been going on for a number of years now,” said McIntyre.

A 2009 report from the education advocacy organization People for Education revealed that up to 335 Ontario schools face closure in the next three years because of declining enrolment, which stems from the province’s low birth rate.

Plummeting birth rates have already resulted in the closure of over 400 schools in Ontario this decade, and the Ontario Ministry of Education revealed that this year total elementary and secondary school enrollment has dropped by nearly 100,000 students from 2002 numbers.

Statistics Canada has predicted that student enrolment in elementary and secondary schools will drop by 500,000 in the next 10 years.

So let me see, she wants a job as a teacher, but believes in abortion and the number of children requiring teachers has fallen. Does anyone see a connection here?


10 posted on 05/10/2010 1:48:12 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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“”I haven’t gone for my, um, what do you call it, the bread thing yet...Communion. I’m nervous about it,” she added.”

Nervous? It’s not a difficult process. The priest will pretend that he, a human, has the power to command God to come down from heaven at his whim and turn into a wafer. Listen to him go through that, then eat the wafer. Simple.


11 posted on 05/10/2010 1:51:57 PM PDT by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: NYer

Why not just ask for baptism and confirmation certificates? Or would that be an invasion of privacy?


12 posted on 05/10/2010 1:52:09 PM PDT by melissa_in_ga (God Bless Sarah Palin)
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To: NYer

It just proves that the environment at the Catholic Schools is still far better than the public schools.

Years ago, In a moment when I think we were particularly misbehaved, our home-room teacher at my Catholic grammer revealed to us that she could teach at the public school and make more than twice as much salary. So why did she stay? “For the Love of the Church and the fact that you kids mean something to me.”

I never forgot that comment!


13 posted on 05/10/2010 1:52:45 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded, my brains fell out.)
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To: melissa_in_ga

My gal had to produce both a baptismal and confirmation certificate to the diocese when she applied to teach parochial school.


14 posted on 05/10/2010 2:42:27 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Don't give up any of your rights. They were purchased for you by blood!)
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To: vladimir998

My cousin was principal of a Catholic school even though he wasn’t Catholic ... and they knew that when they hired him. But later, he and his wife became Catholic, so it’s all good.


15 posted on 05/10/2010 2:45:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Amateurish," agreed Janet Napolitano, the White House amateurishness czar.)
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To: NYer

This isn’t so new. Individuals like Teddy Kennedy, John Kerry, and Nancy Pelosi have been lying about being Catholics for years, to help them get and keep their jobs.


16 posted on 05/10/2010 2:50:59 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: NYer
Why shouldn't they lie? They know that if they're fired they can appeal to some government tribunal and,as a result,they'll be reinstated and be awarded thousands in back pay and “emotional trauma”.
17 posted on 05/10/2010 3:16:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
As well she should be about something as serious as Communion. Here is a suggestion for her regarding partaking in Communion: DON'T.

Especially given St. Paul's admonition:

"Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup"
(1 Cor. 11:27–28).

This is an absolute requirement which can never be dispensed. To receive the Eucharist without sanctifying grace in your soul profanes the Eucharist in the most grievous manner.

18 posted on 05/10/2010 3:28:50 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Alex Murphy
Related threads

Is perusing the FR threads a full or part time occupation?

19 posted on 05/10/2010 3:30:47 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer
the woman nevertheless stated that, "I know what I believe in. I support abortion. I support gay marriage. I'm going through what I have to go through to get a job.

Irony: the reason that so few teaching jobs exist is because the culture of death that she supports has limited the number of children.

20 posted on 05/10/2010 4:56:00 PM PDT by iowamark
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