Thats very Good. I like what you wrote. Why I say this is I have been reading about the exorcism stories books or articles for years. There is a common theme. Which I would compare back to the Bible. These verses: “1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jn 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.”
John the Apostle is pointing out the spirit of a teaching or a true pure spirit. The Protestant or Catholic exorcisms have this common theme test that the Divinity became human{ Flesh} as proof to know to see if the victim is delivered. Now that being said. I personally ran into this with friend who is into the occult. Without going too long. She says she is a Christian. I challenge her to say the Apostles Creed or Nicene Creed. She couldn’t do it. Then would blort out there’s many gods at the key moment to declare in the flesh. I even got more specific. I did time and time again. There’s more to the story. In my eyes without a doubt this a tool from God. This is the main point. Now in the approved visions by the Church I have seen that Mary declares the Apostles Creed And Full Gloria which a pure spirit can not exclaim. I truly believe this is the end all tool that Jesus gave us thru John the Apostle. Also I think its not a coincidence that Mary and John were very close because of Christ but more so of his writings. John points out he came in the flesh alot. Jesus’s flesh is the flesh of her flesh. His humanity is from Mary. Now Its kind of funny that Mary comes in these visions. Why! She is the test proof of 1John 4. Also its passed down that John and Mary came to one of the men who helped write the Creed that declares what we are commenting. Also Why I believe in the Assumption of Mary{Body And Soul went to heaven}.And its very strange that there is no know Relic of this Great person. For all eternity we will see this very verse declared before our eyes.
The Protestant or Catholic exorcisms have this common theme test that the Divinity became human{ Flesh} as proof to know to see if the victim is delivered.
Now, see... That is what I was talking about. I thought that too, but I had a very bad experience with one who fully admitted "Christ, come in the flesh." Perhaps I was inattentive, not paying close enough attention (they're tricky)...
But it was that experience which lead me to question what the phrase "Christ, come in the flesh" actually means.
[...] I challenge her to say the Apostles Creed or Nicene Creed. She couldn’t do it. [...]In my eyes without a doubt this a tool from God.
An interesting take... though I find creeds to be of little value. "Vain repetitions," chantings, and such, these things we are told to avoid. Pagan artifacts.
[...] the Apostles Creed And Full Gloria
Please define, exactly: I am familiar with the Apostle's Creed, but "[...] And Full Gloria" is an amendment which I am unfamiliar with. Probably an RC vs. P translational thing...
I have seen that Mary declares the Apostles Creed And Full Gloria which a pure spirit can not exclaim.
I assume you meant an "impure spirit"... "Cannot exclaim" According to whom?
I truly believe this is the end all tool that Jesus gave us thru John the Apostle.
I find it of passing interest that most folks who follow the Spirit are drawn to John's testimony. I was saved while reading John.
Also I think its not a coincidence that Mary and John were very close because of Christ but more so of his writings.
This is a speculation - not necessarily false, but speculation none the less. It is not in Scripture. I have no doubt that John and Mary were close, else why would Christ consign the care of His mother to John... but their relationship (John, Mary) is not defined.
Now Its kind of funny that Mary comes in these visions. Why! She is the test proof of 1John 4.
Again, a speculative position, and most probably false.
Also its passed down that John and Mary came to one of the men who helped write the Creed that declares what we are commenting.
An apparition authorizing a creed... Now why is it that God would not see fit to just include this "important thing" right in the Book?... That seems to smell a little.
Also Why I believe in the Assumption of Mary{Body And Soul went to heaven}.And its very strange that there is no know Relic of this Great person. For all eternity we will see this very verse declared before our eyes.
Again, speculative. There is no record of such, nor is any assumption of Mary recorded in the Book.
As to relics, I find the entire subject field appalling, and proof abounds that it was manipulated extensively for profit. It is not a Biblically authorized activity, and is very much a pagan practice.
If there was even one instance of Mary being called a queen, or being bowed down to in the Book, I would hold my tongue.
Why the sudden need for a new "style" of messenger from God? The Father has always sent His word to man by way of angels, or by the direct intervention of the Son of Man...
There is no "mother figure" in the Hebrew tradition, and the predictions of the Prophecy show nothing more than the "born of a virgin" stuff wrt Mary... Yet every other thing that God has done, He has showed us beforehand, and that, in spades. Why this paradigm shift in the whole thing?
This points to the "Character of God" thing that I spoke of before. He doesn't change, and His proof is that He told us ALL He set out to do beforehand. Mary's apparent powers are not predicted *at all*.
In what way is Mary's apparition more efficacious than one's standard variety angelic presentation, or the appearance of Christ Himself?