The Protestant or Catholic exorcisms have this common theme test that the Divinity became human{ Flesh} as proof to know to see if the victim is delivered.
Now, see... That is what I was talking about. I thought that too, but I had a very bad experience with one who fully admitted "Christ, come in the flesh." Perhaps I was inattentive, not paying close enough attention (they're tricky)...
But it was that experience which lead me to question what the phrase "Christ, come in the flesh" actually means.
[...] I challenge her to say the Apostles Creed or Nicene Creed. She couldn’t do it. [...]In my eyes without a doubt this a tool from God.
An interesting take... though I find creeds to be of little value. "Vain repetitions," chantings, and such, these things we are told to avoid. Pagan artifacts.
[...] the Apostles Creed And Full Gloria
Please define, exactly: I am familiar with the Apostle's Creed, but "[...] And Full Gloria" is an amendment which I am unfamiliar with. Probably an RC vs. P translational thing...
I have seen that Mary declares the Apostles Creed And Full Gloria which a pure spirit can not exclaim.
I assume you meant an "impure spirit"... "Cannot exclaim" According to whom?
I truly believe this is the end all tool that Jesus gave us thru John the Apostle.
I find it of passing interest that most folks who follow the Spirit are drawn to John's testimony. I was saved while reading John.
Also I think its not a coincidence that Mary and John were very close because of Christ but more so of his writings.
This is a speculation - not necessarily false, but speculation none the less. It is not in Scripture. I have no doubt that John and Mary were close, else why would Christ consign the care of His mother to John... but their relationship (John, Mary) is not defined.
Now Its kind of funny that Mary comes in these visions. Why! She is the test proof of 1John 4.
Again, a speculative position, and most probably false.
Also its passed down that John and Mary came to one of the men who helped write the Creed that declares what we are commenting.
An apparition authorizing a creed... Now why is it that God would not see fit to just include this "important thing" right in the Book?... That seems to smell a little.
Also Why I believe in the Assumption of Mary{Body And Soul went to heaven}.And its very strange that there is no know Relic of this Great person. For all eternity we will see this very verse declared before our eyes.
Again, speculative. There is no record of such, nor is any assumption of Mary recorded in the Book.
As to relics, I find the entire subject field appalling, and proof abounds that it was manipulated extensively for profit. It is not a Biblically authorized activity, and is very much a pagan practice.
If there was even one instance of Mary being called a queen, or being bowed down to in the Book, I would hold my tongue.
Why the sudden need for a new "style" of messenger from God? The Father has always sent His word to man by way of angels, or by the direct intervention of the Son of Man...
There is no "mother figure" in the Hebrew tradition, and the predictions of the Prophecy show nothing more than the "born of a virgin" stuff wrt Mary... Yet every other thing that God has done, He has showed us beforehand, and that, in spades. Why this paradigm shift in the whole thing?
This points to the "Character of God" thing that I spoke of before. He doesn't change, and His proof is that He told us ALL He set out to do beforehand. Mary's apparent powers are not predicted *at all*.
In what way is Mary's apparition more efficacious than one's standard variety angelic presentation, or the appearance of Christ Himself?
Well all I can say is its a belief. Now we have different ways of looking at it. I believe in the Church that produced the book. I believe other people believe the book translated the way they can understand. I am no mystic. But the first Christians walked in the Holy Spirit . We still can and do walk in the Holy Advocate Spirit. Like our redeemer who talk about the advocate. I have a sense of spiritual things just like you do. Like a verse comes up while we are doing our daily business in life. Also a very deep pray life I believe puts us more in a walk with The Spirit. I told you the story. I believe that Holy Spirit sense can prompt me to help. Don’t we all have some kind relationship in the spirit. Anyway the way I look at it its still a tool. I have even read Martin Luther or other Protestant or Catholic use that tool. Also Your assumption is in the Bible only. If thats true who do we go to for the right reading. Don’t say Holy Spirit only otherwise why all the disagreements with Thousands of denominations. They all claim Holy Spirit then contradict each other. Someone has to be the real caretaker of the deposit of faith. Surely God Never intended the mess of differences.