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To: stuartcr
To me, the truth you speak of is the same as a belief, mainly because it is subjective and solely dependent on what you believe.

No, truth not subjective. Belief is not the same thing as truth. Because people "believe" in LIES all the time! That's why I'm pointing out how convoluted your point seems to be. Truth is truth, it does not inhabit separate realms!

Look, we're discussing whether or not God exist and whether the biblical account of his supposed existence is accurate. The reality is today there is no empirical evidence to PROVE God. (Which I know of) If you want to remain steadfast in your quest to find proof, I'm with you all way...however you know the case, and if you chose to search outside the parameters then a lost cause just might be your only outcome.

Open the eyes of my heart, Lord...

214 posted on 05/20/2010 6:03:22 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: sirchtruth

Yes, spiritual truth subjective.

I think belief and truth are the same thing when it is applied to spiritual things. Which is what we are talking about...or at least I am, and what I’ve been saying a number of times.

A non-spiritual lie can be shown to be a lie, can’t it? An event either happened or didn’t. Can you show that a spiritual belief/truth is a lie or not? Just as a fun example...can you honestly show that when a viking dies, he did or did not go to Valhalla? Can you show that there is no happy hunting ground? Can you show that there is or isn’t 70 virgins for Muslims? Can you show or not show that man’s sins have or haven’t been forgiven? Can you show any of these to be lies or truths, without referencing a tome, ballad, scripture or something created by man?

I’m not discussing whether or not God exists, I believe He does. I’m also not looking for any proof of anything. I’m just answering your questions that you have asked about my belief that God instills His truth into each of on an individual basis.

I don’t believe there are any real all-encompassing, universal parameters when discussing spiritual matters outside one’s own belief set. Those parameters are set by your beliefs/truths. That is why I said the truth you speak of is subjective. You make it subjective to certain parameters. Your parameters do not apply to all.


215 posted on 05/21/2010 6:08:16 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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