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To: grey_whiskers

“If so, why not ask the saints, too?”

Because although they are alive in Christ, they are dead, and the Bible says so, and we are expressly forbidden to contact the dead.

I was just reading the account of Saul praying to the dead Samuel last night as a matter of fact. Sin.


53 posted on 05/09/2010 8:44:12 AM PDT by Persevero (If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes?)
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To: Persevero
"Because although they are alive in Christ, they are dead,"

So they are alive. And we don't "contact the dead" we ask for their prayers; not to get nosy news.

59 posted on 05/09/2010 8:53:44 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Persevero
I was just reading the account of Saul praying to the dead Samuel last night as a matter of fact. Sin.

As far as being forbidden to contact the dead, see Leviticus 19:31:

“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the LORD your God."

This is what Saul was doing.

1 Samuel 28 deals with Saul contacting a witch, who he asked to summon up the spirit of the prophet Samuel (whether this really *was* Samuel, or, witches being witches, a deceiving spirit masquerading as Samuel, I don't know). Saul asked Samuel to give him advice (v. 15):

"And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do."

So Saul was consorting with a witch for the purposes of asking someone for advice: which is not the same as asking a fellow believer (who has gone on to Heaven, presumably) , to pray *to GOD* on your behalf.

Cheers!

98 posted on 05/09/2010 10:03:54 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Persevero
Because although they are alive in Christ, they are dead, and the Bible says so, and we are expressly forbidden to contact the dead.

EXACTLY !!!


124 posted on 05/09/2010 10:41:18 AM PDT by Ken4TA (The truth hurts those who don't like truth!)
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