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Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Mary: An Introduction
CatholicApologetics.org ^ | 1985-1991 | Dr. Robert Schihl and Paul Flanagan

Posted on 05/07/2010 10:01:45 PM PDT by Salvation

Catholic Biblical Apologetics


Apologetics without apology!


What does the Roman Catholic Church teach about ...? ... and why?

This website surveys the origin and development of Roman Catholic Christianity from the period of the apostolic church, through the post-apostolic church and into the conciliar movement. Principal attention is paid to the biblical basis of both doctrine and dogma as well as the role of paradosis (i.e. handing on the truth) in the history of the Church. Particular attention is also paid to the hierarchical founding and succession of leadership throughout the centuries.

This is a set of lecture notes used since 1985 to teach the basis for key doctrines and dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church. The objectives of the course were, and are:

The course grew out of the need for the authors to continually answer questions about their faith tradition and their work. (Both authors are active members of Catholic parish communities in the Diocese of Richmond, Virginia. Dr. Robert Schihl was a Professor and Associate Dean of the School of Communication and the Arts at Regent University. Paul Flanagan is a consultant specializing in preparing people for technology based changes.) At the time these notes were first prepared, the authors were spending time in their faith community answering questions about their Protestant Evangelical workplaces (Mr. Flanagan was then a senior executive at the Christian Broadcasting Network), and time in their workplaces answering similar questions about their Roman Catholic faith community. These notes are the result of more than a decade of facilitating dialogue among those who wish to learn more about what the Roman Catholic Church teaches and why.

Mary: An Introduction

Mary: An Introduction

The teachings of Roman Catholic Christianity about the role of Mary, the Mother of Jesus, are some of the most misunderstood and exaggerated beliefs dividing the Body of Christ. Before presenting the teaching of the Church about Mary, there are some important givens or assumptions to be stated about the Church, Mary and the Bible.

The official teaching of the Church has never considered beliefs about Mary to be in any way equal in importance to truths about God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit. Vatican Council II expressed it best when the Council Fathers wrote:

On Ecumenism, No. 11
... in Catholic doctrine there exists an order or "hierarchy" of truths, since they vary in their relation to the foundation of the Christian faith.

The truths about Mary are important because they are still truth, since they are based in the Bible. But they are not central to the primary gospel message of our salvation through Jesus Christ. As an example of the basic gospel message without Mary, we have only to look at the writings of Paul. In Pauline theology, Mary is mentioned only once, and not even by name.

Gal 4:4
But when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, ...

Roman Catholics believe that the understanding of the Church about Mary, as about all Christian truth (e.g., the understanding of the Trinity) deepens and becomes more accurate over the centuries under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Jn 15:26
"When the Advocate comes whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth that proceeds from the Father, he will testify to me."
Jn 16:12-13
"I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth."

When the Catholic Church appears to teach "new doctrines" about Mary, it is often a statement of truth against some current errors or a clarification of truths that have always been taught and believed by Christians through the centuries. The Church believes that handing on these truths participates in the admonition of Paul.

2 Thess 2:15
Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement (our word) or by a letter (written tradition) of ours.
On the Church, No. 67, Vatican Council II
The sacred synod ... strongly urges theologians and preachers of the word of God to be careful to refrain as much from all false exaggeration as from too summary an attitude in considering the special dignity of the Mother of God. Following the study of Sacred Scripture, the Fathers, the doctors and liturgy of the Church, and under the guidance of the Church's magisterium, let them rightly illustrate the duties and privileges of the Blessed Virgin which always refer to Christ, the source of all truth, sanctity, and devotion.

Consequently, two fundamental criteria guide the teaching authority of the Catholic Church as it seeks to discern what are the authentic beliefs about Mary which Jesus through His Holy Spirit would have us know:



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
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To: Iscool

Merely questioning Mary’s alleged role as “Mediatrix” and “Queen of Heaven” is “Mary bashing” as far as some of our more extreme Freepers go.


41 posted on 05/08/2010 10:08:55 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: annalex

Beautiful Icon.


42 posted on 05/08/2010 10:09:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Iscool

Did you read the entire thread?


43 posted on 05/08/2010 10:10:34 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
Why don’t you get this concept?

BECAUSE
FAR MORE
FAR MORE AUTHENTIC
words
AND
ACTIONS
scream much louder
than
the
official
smoke screen
euphemistic
claptrap.

Because I have seen
MANY OTHER FREEPERS
HAVE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED

That it's all
A
FARCE,
A
CHARADE,
.
.
.
FANCY
theological
DOUBLESPEAK
.
.
.
the
FANCY FOOTWORK
HIDDEN
WORSHIP
WALTZ.
.
.
.
--NO MORE--
CONVINCING
TO
GOD ALMIGHTY
than
the
Buddhist
watching with
ALMIGHTY GOD
a
HEAVENLY HOLOGRAPHIC 3D VIDEO
of
the
BUDDHIST
praying before
a statue of
the
Buddha
. . .
watching
the
Heavently
judgment
replay
vainly
trying to explain
to
ALMIGHTY GOD
that
the
worshipper
was
merely
prayerfully
meditating
on
the
ETERNAL PEACE OF JESUS
while gazing
ADORINGLY
with
mere
heart
veneration
toward
the
Buddha.
.
.
.
!!!!BUZZZZZT!!!!
!WRONG!
.
DEPART FROM ME.
I never knew you.

44 posted on 05/08/2010 10:12:10 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool

INDEED.

I suspect, if Mary her authentic self were posting on FR, she’d be even MORE fiercely strident against such hideousness.


45 posted on 05/08/2010 10:14:27 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: BnBlFlag

Actually,

I suspect that if we walked a Vatican statue of Mary without bowing, scraping and kissing the caricatured image’s toes

we’d be accused of ‘bashing’ or some such.


46 posted on 05/08/2010 10:15:43 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Religion Moderator

**such hideousness.**

Are you saying my posts are hideous?

I don’t think so. But God will be the judge of that, not me.


47 posted on 05/08/2010 10:25:33 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Quix

Pray for us, Blessed Mother.


48 posted on 05/08/2010 10:33:51 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Salvation; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

No.

I’m talking about

the practices of

idolatry and blasphemy

being hideous.

Yes. Certainly God will judge us all on such scores.

And, as Alamo-Girl has well noted many times . . . any and all of us can idolize our own egos, our spouses, our children, our jobs, our beliefs, our hobbies, our bank accounts, our organizations, our denominations, our sins . . . the list is endless.

BTW, characterizing someone’s posts as hideous is well within the rules—as is done quite frequently enough regarding my posts by your cohorts.


49 posted on 05/08/2010 10:35:19 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Holy Mary, mother fair,
Filled with love for God,
Pray for us in all our needs.
Pray for us today.


50 posted on 05/08/2010 10:36:49 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

I remain very unconvinced that there’s any such praying on the authentic Mary’s part in Heaven.

I’ve never read any reports of such activities nor any reports of prayer meetings in Heaven.

Worship meetings, lots of reports of those.

None of prayer meetings.


51 posted on 05/08/2010 10:37:19 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: annalex

Amen!!!


52 posted on 05/08/2010 10:38:13 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Quix

Blasphemy


53 posted on 05/08/2010 10:54:08 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Thanks.

It would be one thing if there

REALLY WAS

quibble room.

There ain’t none.


54 posted on 05/08/2010 11:03:26 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Hail Mary, full of Grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women & Blessed is the Fruit of thy womb, Jesus!!!

Mother Mary, pray for us; now & always!


55 posted on 05/08/2010 11:13:13 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman

Last I recall from

SCRIPTURE

God is not all that thrilled with

vain repetitions, either.


56 posted on 05/08/2010 11:16:14 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary that never was it known that anyone who fled to Your protection, implored Your help, or sought Your intercession was left unaided. Inspired with this confidence, we fly to you, O Virgin of virgins, our Mother. To You we come; before You we stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not our petitions, but in Your mercy, hear and answer us. Amen.


57 posted on 05/08/2010 11:50:31 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman

May God reveal His Truth and His priorities regarding such idolatry, blasphemy.

Amen.


58 posted on 05/08/2010 11:52:43 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

The angel of the Lord declared unto Mary.
And she conceived of the Holy Ghost.
Hail Mary, ...

Behold the handmaid of the Lord.
Be it done unto me according to Thy word.
Hail Mary, ...

And the Word was made Flesh.
And dwelt among us.
Hail Mary, ...

Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

Let Us Pray

Pour forth, we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts, that we to whom the Incarnation of Christ Thy Son was made known by the message of an angel, may by His Passion and Cross be brought to the glory of His Resurrection. Through the same Christ Our Lord.
Amen.


59 posted on 05/08/2010 12:00:20 PM PDT by TheStickman
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May God Almighty do whatever it takes to draw all who seriously assert that they are “Christians” wholly unto HIM and His priorities.

May God Holy Spirit reveal to each of us called Christian the secrets and intents of our hearts which would compete with His supremacy and His priorities in our lives.

In Jesus’ Name, Amen.


60 posted on 05/08/2010 12:03:11 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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