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Pope Benedict to deliver 'intense' message during Fatima visit
EWTN News ^ | 5/5/2010

Posted on 05/05/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by markomalley

"Fatima is a particularly significant place for this Pope," said Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi on Tuesday, noting that it was also a destination for two former Popes. The Holy Father has a thorough knowledge of the history of the Marian sanctuary, he added.

Fr. Lombardi held a press conference at the Vatican to prepare the media for the Pope's next trip out of the Vatican. He will be visiting Portugal from May 11-14.

The spokesman referred to the Pope's stop in Fatima on May 13 as the highlight and "heart" of the upcoming four-day trip to Portugal, according to Vatican Radio. But, he pointed out, Benedict XVI will not be the first Pope to visit the Marian shrine.

Two other Pontiffs have been to Fatima. In 1967, the sanctuary hosted Paul VI, and John Paul II visited in 1982, 1991 and 2000, at which time the visionaries Jacinta and Francesco were beatified.

The Portuguese shrine is not unfamiliar to Pope Benedict, since as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger extensively studied the message of Fatima. Fr. Lombardi said on Tuesday that the Pope has been involved with history of the Marian sanctuary in a "very deep, personal way."

It was him, for example, who was called upon to give a theological perspective when the third secret of Fatima was made public in 2000.

The Vatican spokesman said that the Holy Father will also deliver an intense message during his Fatima visit. Upon his arrival at the sanctuary on May 12, he will remember John Paul II and the 29th anniversary of the assassination attempt that nearly took his life on May 13, 1981.

This visit marks the Holy Father's 15th Apostolic Journey abroad in his five years and is his first to Portugal as Pope.

During today's general audience, the Holy Father greeted the people of Portugal in their language, telling them that he will be there this coming weekend at the invitation of the president of the nation and the episcopal conference.

He said he was "happy to be able to visit the 'land of Holy Mary'" on the 10th anniversary of the beatification of the shepherd children.

According to Portuguese press reports, local police are planning for a cumulative total of 450,000 people at the celebrations in Lisbon, Fatima and Portugal during the four-day visit.


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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

Sounds like he should rate up there with some others leading folks astray.


61 posted on 05/06/2010 11:29:39 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Reasonable suggestion, to me.


62 posted on 05/06/2010 11:30:10 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
"An infallible and unmistakable sign by which we can distinguish a heretic, a man of false doctrine, an enemy of God, from one of God's true friends is that the heretic and the hardened sinner show nothing but contempt and indifference for our Lady. He endeavours by word and example, openly or insidiously - sometimes under specious pretexts - to belittle the love and veneration shown to her." TREATISE ON TRUE DEVOTION TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN St. Louis de Montfort

Thank you for posting this!

Even Martin Luther got this one right

[She is the] highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after Christ . . . She is nobility, wisdom, and holiness personified. We can never honor her enough. Still honor and praise must be given to her in such a way as to injure neither Christ nor the Scriptures.- Martin Luther -Sermon, Christmas, 1531)

63 posted on 05/06/2010 11:30:27 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

It’s kind of mildly fascinating . . .

after all the grand invitation to reason . . .

instead of dealing with my points.

YET AGAIN

we have the compulsive, chronic, knee-jerk reflex pseudo-’response’

of

KILL THE MESSENGER AT ALL COSTS.

Of course . . . that pseudo-response is

sooooooooooooooooooo full of

centuries of

Vatican

rubber dictionary,
rubber history,
rubber Bible,
rubber ‘logic,’
rubber integrity,
rubber ‘honesty,’
. . .


64 posted on 05/06/2010 11:32:34 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg

Aren’t all the gloom and doom predictions long overdue? If it’s a prophecy let’s get it over with already


65 posted on 05/06/2010 11:42:12 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: wagglebee; RnMomof7; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; the_conscience; ...
Well, I give you the unambiguous words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 12 (repeated in two other gospels) and you read them as "love prayers to your mother."

As God wills.

I'm shocked that Calvinists even speak of Judgment Day, I thought in Calvin's Cosmic Lottery one was either among the elect or they weren't.

All men will be judged at Judgment Day. But all Bible-believing Christians know and are grateful for the fact that they will not be judged by their own righteousness, but by Christ's righteousness within them, freely given by God to His own.

Men are saved by unearned mercy, and not debt. By Christ's obedience. By Christ's sacrifice. By Christ's righteousness. By Christ's good work on the cross. All mercifully imputed to the believer.

Like modern-say spy movies, the foul and dangerous lie has an acronym: TULIP.

lol. Funny you equate spy movies with TULIP. Ian Fleming and James Bond were both Scottish Calvinists. They both knew right from wrong, by the grace of God alone.

66 posted on 05/06/2010 11:43:16 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix
KILL THE MESSENGER AT ALL COSTS

Thus, the counter Reformation which continues to this day.

67 posted on 05/06/2010 11:45:57 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I’m in no great rush to race to Armageddon.

At this stage, that is.

Once things get really nasty, yeah, hurry it up.

Evidently God is planning to do just that.

The END TIMES are unfolding on HIS schedule, not ours.

Thankfully.


68 posted on 05/06/2010 11:50:50 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

INDEED.

sigh.


69 posted on 05/06/2010 11:51:20 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; johngrace; Campion; MarkBsnr; markomalley; Dr. Brian Kopp; Mad Dawg; netmilsmom; ...
Well, I give you the unambiguous words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 12 (repeated in two other gospels) and you read them as "love prayers to your mother."

I will repeat this for the third and final time:
The Blessed Mother is not YOUR mother.

It seems that you agree with me on this, so I don't know why you want to debate it.

All men will be judged at Judgment Day.

So much for Calvin's Cosmic Lottery.

Funny you equate spy movies with TULIP.

No, I equate acronyms for evil with TULIP.

Ian Fleming and James Bond were both Scottish Calvinists.

So?

70 posted on 05/06/2010 11:54:12 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: johngrace

Galations 4: 4”But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a WOMAN, Born UNDER LAW, 5to redeem those under law, that we MIGHT receive the full rights of sons.” Gee! He does have to obey the Law ! Could he not be the SINLESS LAMB! The commandments are the law! LUKE 17 7”It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.” SO HONOR YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER ARE STILL THERE. CHRIST IS SHOWING WE ARE ALL FAMILY who believe. HELLLLOOO! I GUESS HIS MOTHER IN THE HEAVENLY KITCHEN DOING THE DISHES AND THEN HAS TO TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE FOR THE CURB. STILLIING SWIMMING THE TIBER!!


71 posted on 05/06/2010 11:59:41 AM PDT by johngrace
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What is THE SONG OF SONGS?


72 posted on 05/06/2010 12:09:44 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace
What is THE SONG OF SONGS?

LOL. It wasn't written for Mother's Day.

This gets creepier as RC theories are exposed...

From that old standby, Wikipedia...

The protagonists of the Song of Songs are a woman (identified in one verse as "the Shulamite")[3] and a man, and the poem suggests movement from courtship to consummation...

Are RC apologists "courting and consummating" with Mary?

Creepier and creepier. Rome's worship of idols appears to know no bounds.

73 posted on 05/06/2010 12:22:51 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I don't know why, but I just love this St. Louis de Montfort.

If the antis keep up their howling and baying, I'm going to consecrate myself to Mary. Seems increasingly like the only reasonable response.

74 posted on 05/06/2010 12:24:09 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: wagglebee; marshmallow

why didn’t marshmallow make this type of thread a caucus thread? You know the born agains would chime in.


75 posted on 05/06/2010 12:28:12 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus; markomalley

Maybe because it was markomalley who posted it?

I don’t know why the non-Catholics even care. Okay, that’s not quite true, they HATE the mother of God and, as hard as it is to believe, they probably hate her more than they hate the Church.


76 posted on 05/06/2010 12:32:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mad Dawg
The antis kept me away from St. Louis de Montfort all these years. I almost left Catholicism in 1991 under the sway of a fallen away Catholic fundamentalist.

It took 19 years to completely wash their erroneous beliefs out of my mind, and during that almost 2 decade struggle, their errors which I had internalized kept me from picking up St. Louis de Montfort.

I finally started reading him last month, and started the 30 day consecration on his feast day, April 28.

I'm finally at peace. The last vestiges of these protestant heresies have finally been exorcised from my intellect, and there are no facets of the True Faith about which I hold any reserves whatsoever.

St. Louis de Montfort's writings are integral to surviving the Last Days with the True Faith intact.

77 posted on 05/06/2010 12:35:02 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Campion

, "O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy."

Shhhh! Don't tell the antis that we pray that so often! They might think we believe in Jesus as our Savior.

No, as a matter of fact, they're not showing much sign of believing that.

78 posted on 05/06/2010 12:37:15 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Coleus
I didn't post the thread but if I did, I wouldn't have caucused it either.

For the following reasons;

1) Determined trolls, have in recent memory, re-posted caucus threads without the "caucus" label and discussed the issue anyway.

2) The naysaying ultimately works to our advantage. On any given day, throwing mud at the Catholic Church can impress the gullible but when it is repeated daily over a prolonged period, the negativity, bitterness and obsession becomes difficult to hide and is a major turn off for the neutrals. A spoon full of honey attracts more flies than a barrel full of vinegar, as St. Francis de Sales once said. Let them run their mouths. They're harming themselves principally.

3) We ought to be adult enough to handle it. As Catholics, we need to be able to engage the flamethrowers and flak-originators head on and counter their lies, distortions, half-truths and kooky ideas.

4) It's good for us. A little pain is good for the soul.

5) Shutting out the incorrigible naysayers only invigorates them and makes them more rabid in the long run. It heightens their urge to attack and fuels their already deranged "Catholic conspiracy" theories.

79 posted on 05/06/2010 12:47:52 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Creeper ? Its in the Bible.


80 posted on 05/06/2010 12:53:57 PM PDT by johngrace
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