Posted on 05/05/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by markomalley
"Fatima is a particularly significant place for this Pope," said Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi on Tuesday, noting that it was also a destination for two former Popes. The Holy Father has a thorough knowledge of the history of the Marian sanctuary, he added.
Fr. Lombardi held a press conference at the Vatican to prepare the media for the Pope's next trip out of the Vatican. He will be visiting Portugal from May 11-14.
The spokesman referred to the Pope's stop in Fatima on May 13 as the highlight and "heart" of the upcoming four-day trip to Portugal, according to Vatican Radio. But, he pointed out, Benedict XVI will not be the first Pope to visit the Marian shrine.
Two other Pontiffs have been to Fatima. In 1967, the sanctuary hosted Paul VI, and John Paul II visited in 1982, 1991 and 2000, at which time the visionaries Jacinta and Francesco were beatified.
The Portuguese shrine is not unfamiliar to Pope Benedict, since as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger extensively studied the message of Fatima. Fr. Lombardi said on Tuesday that the Pope has been involved with history of the Marian sanctuary in a "very deep, personal way."
It was him, for example, who was called upon to give a theological perspective when the third secret of Fatima was made public in 2000.
The Vatican spokesman said that the Holy Father will also deliver an intense message during his Fatima visit. Upon his arrival at the sanctuary on May 12, he will remember John Paul II and the 29th anniversary of the assassination attempt that nearly took his life on May 13, 1981.
This visit marks the Holy Father's 15th Apostolic Journey abroad in his five years and is his first to Portugal as Pope.
During today's general audience, the Holy Father greeted the people of Portugal in their language, telling them that he will be there this coming weekend at the invitation of the president of the nation and the episcopal conference.
He said he was "happy to be able to visit the 'land of Holy Mary'" on the 10th anniversary of the beatification of the shepherd children.
According to Portuguese press reports, local police are planning for a cumulative total of 450,000 people at the celebrations in Lisbon, Fatima and Portugal during the four-day visit.
“My King told me to spread the Good News of our Salvation. How He died on a cross for us.”
Praise God! It would be great if those who call themselves Christian would stick to this instead of only bringing it out when their idol Mary is preached against.
Words of true Christian faith only appear on Vaticanian threads from Vaticanians once what they really wanted to preach about has been shown to be antichristian.
“...bully or belittle people.”
Those who follow Rome like to claim they are victims of an evil mob when all that is done is someone preaches the Word. It is deception. Posting things like “Praying to Mary is idolatry and here’s why...” is not bullying or belittling anybody. All it is doing is telling the truth. If it hurts someone, it is only because that person does not want to hear the truth and so wants to shame and destroy the messenger with slurs.
It’s persistently shocking how many of at least the rabid clique folks
seem to have a huge incapacity to ask reasonable questions.
Then why have so many on this thread denied that the Mother of God appeared to three children at Fatima?
Evidently, you don't. LOL. I guess that's an indication of how much the rabid cliques know & understand about the topic!
Really, what "clique" is it that teaches about UFOs? Where are UFOs discussed in the Bible?
THE WHITE HANKY CHAPEAU OF THE MONTH AWARD FOR THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS EXAMPLE OF BEARING FALSE WITNESS on the part of an RC.
You have yet to demonstrate that I word of what I've written is false.
If you could summon up a large enough mother ship, you could save the world.
INDEED TO THE MAX.
Is calling someone "rabid" when there is no question who is being talked about considered personal?
“Who does?”
The post I was responding to does. The doctrines of men and demon it is based on does.
Tough buns, cookie. If you kept your nose in the multicoloured and multifonted comic books that your Catholic caricatures come out of on whatever planet you are on, you wouldn't have to experience the Church of Christ whatsoever.
Some folks are demonstrating so much of their chronic obstreporous, obnoxious irrationality and convoluted mangled theology that I think I’m going to have to return a chunk of them to IGNORE or MOSTLY IGNORE.
At some point it becomes embarrassingly pathetic.
I can’t afford to be party to encouraging such pathetic excuses and pretentions for rational postings.
Sheesh.
If you spend all your time claiming that you have found problems and don’t spend any time in defining them, don’t be surprised when your credibility wanes into non existance.
Mad Dawg? Are you saying that Mad Dawg puts Mary above Christ?
Nobody said being Catholic was supposed to be easy. Hugh Hewitt decided to take the easy way out. I don't think that any of us would take that option.
What happens in the real persecution, though? We won't have an RM to protect us. We should be ready to stand...or melt.
That is an incredibly offensive and false characterization of the Church and it has absolutely no place in a Religion Forum. It speaks far more about your lack of Christianity than anything else.
Sins can be distinguished according to their objects, as can every human act; or according to the virtues they oppose, by excess or defect; or according to the commandments they violate. They can also be classed according to whether they concern God, neighbor, or oneself; they can be divided into spiritual and carnal sins, or again as sins in thought, word, deed, or omission. The root of sin is in the heart of man, in his free will, according to the teaching of the Lord: "For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a man."
Yep:
To: Dr. Eckleburg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...It sounds like . . .
the whole Fatima hoax will be strengthened . . . thereby strengthening the the whole goddess element of the caricatured pseudo-Mary personage that was embellished so extensively at Fatima during a very standard dramatic version of a certain type of UFO manifestation.
Of course, folks focusing on the caricatured Mary and all the fantasies, dogma, mythology surrounding the pseudo-Mary personage are easy prey for such hoaxesparticularly with all the UFO technologies and their sound, light, mass hypnosis etc. techniques.
The dancing sun aspect was clearly a common larger [medium in some respects] UFO craft blotting out the sun and performing other typical maneuvers in the incident.
*snicker*
You wrote
The Word never intended for anyone to even come up with the idea that Christs mother was to be elevated above Christ.
When I asked, "Who does?" you answered:
The post I was responding to does.
Here's the entire post. Would you be so kind as to show me exactly where it elevates Mary above Christ?
It's all very well to take recourse to the usual litany of accusations centered around rubber, but if the general charge is not reduced and clearly related to the specific thing you are complaining about, then it just passes me by.Is the mother of the head NOT the mother of the Body?
Is Mary NOT the mother of Jesus the Christ?
Is the Church NOT the Body of which Christ is the head?
I don't see the wildness or the rubber.
In related news, I am astonished the a psychologist questions the bonding of infant with mother as important in the development of the ability to love.
The drinking game code words will be Muslim and Islam.
>>What happens in the real persecution, though? We won’t have an RM to protect us. We should be ready to stand...or melt. <<
I’m not looking to get into practice for real persecution.
I’m looking for some class and decorum. Like it or not, we try to sell FR. It needs money to continue. We can sell it if it’s a constant riot.
I have no problem defending my faith to reasonable souls and I would die for my faith from those who would kill me for it, but this is more a matter of “it’s a discussion forum”. We want others to read and understand our ideas. Something as simple as “Robert’s Rules of Order” makes us look less like the hate mongers the MSM calls us.
If you said "anti-Catholics on FR are demented." that would not be making it personal. If you said "You are demented." that would be making it personal.
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