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Preying on the faithful: Though Mormons often victims, LDS Church skips fraud-prevention event
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | May 2, 2010 | Tom Harvey

Posted on 05/02/2010 5:39:16 PM PDT by Colofornian

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To: svcw

To answer the next question coming up : yes.


81 posted on 05/03/2010 10:57:39 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: svcw

And the question is...

LOL


82 posted on 05/03/2010 11:56:38 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, (D&C 132:64)

So the priesthood holders must be polygamists ???

Oh thats rich...

So SLC has NO legitimate priesthood holders...

If theyre not in polygamy theyre not priests according to Joey Smiths mormon doctrine...

ROFLMBO


83 posted on 05/03/2010 12:00:48 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

WOW its amazing whats really in the “quad” isnt it ???


84 posted on 05/03/2010 12:01:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw; Elsie

I’ve been mowing my lawn today...

(Push mower...though the kids have been griping for years for me to get a rider...)

I FEEL good right now...great exercise...

The ground is soaked but with all that rain last night...

If i hadnt done some of it today, I’ll have a jungle again by tomorrow...

Its hot and sunny today...

The grass is growing rapidly as I type...

:)


85 posted on 05/03/2010 12:08:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Thanks for that bit of text from the D&C.

And what is CRAZY about these threads; is that MORMONs moan and complain when we ANTI's post THEIR Scripture!

86 posted on 05/03/2010 12:20:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife. (D&C 132:65)

Read your BIBLE, MORMONs (it's part of your standard works) and you will NOT find thsat GOD commanded Abraham to do any such thing.

His WIFE Sari (bless her soul, for wanting to help GOD out with His slow coming Promise) offered her slave to him!

87 posted on 05/03/2010 12:23:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
So the priesthood holders must be polygamists ???

Well; if you BELIEVE that GOD really gave that scripture to Joseph Smith, then YES.

88 posted on 05/03/2010 12:24:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Utah Binger

Me, too!

Mine is PUSH (help with the worn out self-drive mechanism) to get around the small things so the big rider can come into play.

After I did the grass part, I went to the woods to whack down the spring plant jungle that is in there.

Found a few more dead trees that need to come down.

(I’ll bet that UB won’t cut ANYthing GREEN at his place!)


89 posted on 05/03/2010 12:27:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

,-)


90 posted on 05/03/2010 12:32:34 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Elsie

Do you have a Mormon ping list by any chance? I’d like to be on it and read those complaints when they are posted.


91 posted on 05/03/2010 12:42:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: Elsie; Tennessee Nana
We had three or four cottonwood trees come down this past winter with the global warming five feet of snow. Thanks Al.

Anyway, our hired hand (me) is still working on cutting them up and hauling them away. The Kubota has been very useful. Finally we have started to see some green and even cut the grass once already. Turned on the sprinkler systems last week and the next night it went down to 15 degrees and froze and broke all of the exposed bush sprinkler heads. All the apple trees are showing some color this week but I fear the frost.

Nothing like the good folks in Tennessee are going through right now.

BTW I think I'll buy some property in Fredonia Arizona. Two reasons: 1) So I won't have to answer that question "Where you From?" I say Utah, they say "you a Mormon?" and 2) So I can develop a small retirement community for folks just like me that want to support the efforts of Arizona. Land is very inexpensive there plus the Arizona legislature is actually made up of normal people.

Only twenty minutes away.

92 posted on 05/03/2010 12:59:21 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, 20 Miles North of Fredonia Arizona)
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To: Utah Binger

Gee. I am not nor have ever been a Mormon.

I wasn’t trained by Xerox or IBM or some other superior sales training system.

I was however involved with a big corp. that routinely lied to clients, as a matter of course.

Arthur Andersen was crooked; just like Enron.

A few years ago financial institutions intentionally loaned money to people they had strong reason to expect would not/could not repay.

Clerical workers inside these firms were promoted based on proficiency making files of forged and fraudulent documentation, for said loans.

The government encouraged this practice. Rating agencies took front end fees, for groups of such loans. Accountants (CPA firms), Attorneys, Securities Brokerages all took front end fees for such loans securities.

Tammy Faye Bakker and her streaming makeup, and Benny Hinn should be warning enough to not trust every “spiritual” solicitation, from church people living in splendid oppulence.

IMO America and its institutions - corporate, governmental and others - have become untruthful as a basic characteristic.

Dishonesty is as American as apple pie.


93 posted on 05/03/2010 1:01:18 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Tennessee Nana
according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife. (D&C 132:65) Was that Joey Smith who commanded ???

(Yeah, what a sea-change of Smith a dozen or so years before that...)

March, 1830. Smith is reciting an early "commandment" (he called it the "Book of Commandments" when it was published in 1833...before its name was changed to "Doctrine & Covenants"...Smith is dictating Chapter XVI of that "book", vv. 25:
I command you, that thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

By 1844, Smith had married about 11 already-married women! My how things changed so fast for Joey.

94 posted on 05/03/2010 1:51:09 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Check your FReepmail


95 posted on 05/03/2010 1:56:53 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The immigrant, legal or illegal, is always right -- and the native-born citizen's always wrong.)
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To: Utah Binger
We had three or four cottonwood trees come down this past ...

I had one take out our power just 2 hours ago!

Well... not a COTTONWOOD...

I was just working in the barn as a front moved thru and I thought the power problem was a LONG way off.

I fired up the generator and waited.

My Daughter-in-law left for town to get some food and called b ack and said a tree had ripped out the line; just about the same time the repair crew had disconnectged the broken wires.

As you can see; I'm up and running again.

96 posted on 05/03/2010 6:34:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
As you can see; I'm up and running again.

Let the Elsiethon begin!

97 posted on 05/04/2010 4:20:42 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, 20 Miles North of Fredonia Arizona)
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To: Utah Binger

I had two huge centuries old Oak trees in my front yard...

They were much higher than the house..

I called my property Two Oaks...

About 15 years ago we had a tornado and one of the trees split in half...

It fell on an angle to the house so luckily it missed the house by about 4 feet...

The remaining half battled on bravely...

After about 5 years the other half fell down in another storm...

So now my place is called One Oak...

BTW if I lived in CA the whackos would have been here to give the tree a funeraL...

:)


98 posted on 05/04/2010 5:15:47 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana; Elsie
The large cottonwood, second from the right side fell and wiped out the side of the large poplar tree in the middle, barely missing the Living History Museum. Also when it fell it caused the bank of the irrigation ditch to collapse. I was certainly happy that all my Mormon neighbors immediately came to help. That was because the irrigation ditch stopped running and everybody down stream had no water. Courtesy Carolyn Lord who made the watercolor in 1999.


99 posted on 05/04/2010 5:54:36 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, 20 Miles North of Fredonia Arizona)
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To: Tennessee Nana
When we moved here 5 years ago, there were a couple of GIANT oaks on the highway route. Just those two, in a plot of grass - close enough for branches and roots to intertwine.

They were MASSIVE! I'd guess two grown men could barely encircle them.

At night, there was a sign about 200 feet away that was lighted. When the evening mist/fog was right, their silhouettes would loom in the darkness; being backlit by the light that missed the sign.

One day, on my trip to town, I saw that one had fallen: away from the other.

After a couple of days, the fallen one was gone: nothing but some chips and sawdust to show it had ever existed.

I used to see the single one, standing so proud still, but alone. Alone now, to conjure up tree memories of it's sibling (no doubt), remembering the storms they'd survived together - the icy weight of winter sleet, the leaf rending hail of the midwest. And yes, the warm days of spring and the the squirrels and the birds and the shedding of fall leaves.

How could I get teared up over a dumb tree?

I guess MY mortality was (is) looming as well.

Someday I'LL be gone. Will there be enough chips and sawdust left of me to bring back memories?

The now single tree stood there for two more years, silently being sentry over the corner intersection until, it, too, gave up the ghost and toppled to the ground.

How so like mates who've been left behind when the other passes. They, too, soon join the one with which so much of their life was with.

Why have I been permitted to see those trees?

Why hadn't they fallen just five years sooner? After all, that would be just a blink in their over 100 year existence - years that saw young men topple other trees for their field of crops - crops put in with horse and hand.

Years that saw the dirt road turn to gravel, to asphalt - the farms maintained by machines now - the land giving way to homes and families.


Last night I lost a tree. It took out the power line for about 5 of us folks - 5 families.

A temporary disruption in our lives that served to emphasize the fickleness of it all.


Why am I sounding like Solomon this morning?

Go feed the goats and release the chickens and enjoy GOD's blessing in the time I have left.

L8R

100 posted on 05/04/2010 6:53:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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