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To: marshmallow
It is this personal experience of Mary's love, power and assistance that is the clincher

Kind of tells you all you need to know about the Catholic position ... sorry, I am a Father/Son/Holy Ghost sort of guy...

2 posted on 05/02/2010 1:57:39 PM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka; liege

You never know. You might be a convert someday!


10 posted on 05/02/2010 2:21:07 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ikka

I thought the same thing when I read that ... mysticism at its highest..


11 posted on 05/02/2010 2:21:12 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: ikka

King James Bible

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

If you pray to anyone other than Christ you are supporting the Catholics Pantheon of Gods and NOT Monotheism.

The core beliefs of the Holy Roman Catholic Church were developed by the Council at Nicea, Which was Commissioned by the Pagan King Constantine.

Before Constantine and Christianity, Rome had a Pantheon of Gods. Constantine Hybridized the existing Roman Religion with Christianity to form The Holy Roman Catholic Church.

At that point Constantine became a “Christian”.

So how exactly does Praying to Mary make one a Christian?


14 posted on 05/02/2010 2:44:47 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: ikka; marshmallow
a Father/Son/Holy Ghost sort of guy

I have a link to a FreeRepublic thread, wherein Nancy Pelosi (wannabe good Catholic) recounted praying to some saint or other for the passage of the health care bill. The R.C. Freepers has some amusement at her expense because she prayed to the wrong saint. None at all that she was praying to a saint.

What they do for St. Random, you can bet they do for the BVM.

Heidelberg's always good.

"Q. 30)Do such then believe in Jesus the only Saviour, who seek their salvation and welfare of saints, of themselves, or anywhere else?

"A.) They do not; for though they boast of him in words, yet in deeds they deny Jesus the only deliverer and Saviour; for one of these two things must be true, that either Jesus is not a complete Saviour; or that they, who by a true faith receive this Saviour, must find all things in him necessary to their salvation."


15 posted on 05/02/2010 2:45:55 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Take, drink. Remember and believe that the blood of Jesus was shed for a complete remission ...")
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To: ikka

As a former Catholic and now Methodist I was always uneasy about the worship of Mary. To me it was to close to Goddess worship.


25 posted on 05/02/2010 3:40:06 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor
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To: ikka
The Mother of Jesus, who stood at the foot of the Cross when He gave His life for us, the promise for salvation, and hope for eternal life. She alone among all mankind was born without original sin. We believe that praying to Mary is our best opportunity to provide intercession to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

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54 posted on 05/02/2010 8:24:57 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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