Posted on 04/29/2010 10:34:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Neither one, sorry.
Now, this Catholic has to go back to his real job. (I batter puppies to death -- slowly -- and wreck small children's birthday parties. I'm one of those evil Catholics -- we're all terrorists, really. We need killing badly.)
Cardinal Law is in the safe haven of the Vatican still serving as an Archpriest of Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore.
And Law is 78!
Take a look at what's happening in Mexico:
http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/islam-new-religion-rebellious-mexican-state-chiapas
The University of Notre Dame is a Catholic University, run by the Catholic Church is it not?
And Catholic Bishops and Nuns are employed and hired so to speak, by the Catholic Church, are they not?
So when those authorities agitate, sympathize, and toil for the Democrat Party, then they are working for the enemy, are they not?
There is no way around this conclusion anymore, the Catholic Church has chosen sides, and it is not us.
Agree- What is most disturbing is that the AZ law is made out to be what it is not. It is NOT racial profiling.
Under law when an officer has reasonable suspicion to detain an individual such as failure to observe a stop sign, he is empowered to detain tnat individual and check for possible violations of other laws such as not having a valid driver’s license or inquire as to whether there is contraband, dangerous weapons or ask for residency and citizenship papers.
If a violation appears then a citation could be issued or a warrant for probable cause or arrest may lie. This is a NEUTRAL way of enforcing an earlier paraellel federal law.
Does anyone else have another way of enforcing such a law?
You are absolutely right about this and, in fact, I think those who you will least surprise with this article are the Catholic FReepers (who have said this about the USCCB for years).
I, for one, am incredibly pissed by the behavior of our bishops who are teaching something that does not come close to lining up with the actual teachings of the Church.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church says:
2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.
Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical condition, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.
The Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, paragraph 298, says:
Regulating immigration according to criteria of equity and balance is one of the indispensable conditions for ensuring that immigrants are integrated into society with the guarantees required by recognition of their human dignity.
Pope John Paul II, in his message for World Migration Day, 1996, acknowledged the problems of illegal immigration. In this message he said:
Today the phenomenon of illegal migrants has assumed considerable proportions, both because the supply of foreign labour is becoming excessive in comparison to the needs of the economy, which already has difficulty in absorbing its domestic workers, and because of the spread of forced migration.
He also discussed the topic in his Apostolic Exhortation Ecclesia in Europa, saying: Public authorities have the responsibility of controlling waves of migration with a view to the requirements of the common good.
Our current Holy Father said, in Caritas in Veritate, No country can be expected to address today's problems of migration by itself.
Despite this clear teaching of the Universal Magesterium, the bishops in the US seem unable to comprehend the concept that there is a difference between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. While their attitude, if it were restricted to legal migrants, guest workers, and legitimate refugees, would be perfectly defensible, that is NOT their attitude and I am offended...both as an American and as a Catholic.
And the evidence shows that things are getting worse for us in this country.
And I see ZERO signs of the Catholic Church actually working or succeeding in our interests.
The University of Notre Dame is a Catholic University, run by the Catholic Church is it not?
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It is not run by the Catholic church, it is run by a lay board for just about the last 45 years.
What one must first understand is that the Cardinal is a liberal first and a Catholic somewhere down the road. My only window into his soul is what he shows in public, and quite obviously he shares the liberal belief that the United States is capable of harboring a fourth of the population of Mexico, and the poorest quarter at that. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, let us say that he wishes to spare some very good people from one of the most corrupt governments in the world, a place where the ordinary Mexican has almost no chance to prosper.
The problem is that his premise is wrong. As the collapse of California shows, the United States can do no such thing. California by itself ranks, or used to rank, among the 7th wealthiest political units in the world. But it is staggering under the strain of supporting the new immigration. The Nativists in NYC in the 1850s got a bad name for opposing the invasion of their city by poor Irishmen,people who brought nothing with them but strong backs and their poverty. They blamed Catholicism for Irish poverty. I myself blame English colonial government whose ineptness left the Irish to starve after the potato famine hit. I blame the Mexican government for the poverty of the Mexicans, the central American governments for the poverty of the Central Americans. Anyway, the poor have fled north and there are simply too many of them. We are like the rich man who out of the kindness of his heart takes in a poor man from the street. Fine, he has plenty to share. But now the poor man wants his whole family to move in. Fine, still, But now his whole village wants to move in, and there is simply not enough room.
Then obviously the Congregation of Catholic Education in Rome should protect more forcefully it’s “CATHOLIC” brand.
No brand has been more valuble...none!
A brand that for hundreds of years many have died and suffered rather than denounce.
It just makes me sick at heart...because we may need/do need Rome someday, we or our children’s children. What if we are unable to turn things around with the ballot box? What if we need to seriously unite against tyranny...and where will the Church be?? Against us as they are today?
Its no secret why California and Texas are now more Catholic than much of New England and the Mid-Atlantic. It isn't "conversions" as the RC caucus here will tell you.
We have the tail wag the dog syndrome here in the US. The liberal bishops in the large dioceses somehow garner more “clout” in framing national Church policy to social issues.
The U.S. Bishops who are sponsor and enable the massive illegal network which is bringing people into this country unlawfully, are clearly in the wrong.
This is clericalism at its most obnoxious, because these Bishops are wrongly clothing themselves in episcopal authority while usurping the role and responsibility of the laity, which is action for righteousness in the political sphere.
If anybody here, Catholic or not, stands with the Catechism and against the USCCB clerical bureaucracy, they will find an ally in me.
I’m sure there’s a big reward for you for posting all these anti-Catholic threads............<sarcasm off
It’s gets tiresome, Alex.
Falsehoods and half-truths are not what makes up the Catholic Church.
You cannnot paint the entire Catholic Church with such generalities.
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Look here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2503194/posts?page=39#39
And he’s not a Mexican. He is a naturalized citizen. He knows how to do it the right way! Please get your facts before you start slamming people around.
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