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To: A.A. Cunningham
C'mon AA! The Kool Aid drinkers I am referring to are the ones complaining about a "witch hunt" and using the "everybody does it" excuse when faced with the multi-national phenomenon of priests being relocated and rehabilitated in the event of perversion. This has been going on for decades, even centuries, and a certain segment of Catholics persists in their "few rotten apples" defense after years of DENIAL.

The Church no longer has carte blanche in its affairs when it comes to criminality. 21st Century society will not allow it. Any "persecution" of perversion and corruption has been brought by the Church upon itself. Were it not for folks OUTSIDE of the Church, as well as the courageous laypeople who were IGNORED by the high hats for DECADES, the Church would do NOTHING to address such perversion and corruption but instead continue to practice the DENIAL that was characteristic of the 1950s-2000s.

12 posted on 04/27/2010 9:43:53 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza

“Were it not for folks OUTSIDE of the Church, as well as the courageous laypeople who were IGNORED by the high hats for DECADES, the Church would do NOTHING to address such perversion and corruption but instead continue to practice the DENIAL that was characteristic of the 1950s-2000s.”

The horrendous scandal started to vastly improve in the late 70’s/early 80’s, long before any public pressure was brought to bear.

Freegards


19 posted on 04/27/2010 10:38:37 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Clemenza
the Church would do NOTHING to address such perversion and corruption but instead continue to practice the DENIAL that was characteristic of the 1950s-2000s

These are a few examples of denial outside the Catholic Church.

http://www.reformation.com/CSA/ilger1.htm

Ilger, a former second-grade teacher, was convicted in 1988 of molesting four students in his San Luis Obispo classroom. After being released from jail, Ilger and his family moved to Los Angeles, where he took a position with Hope Chapel of the Valley in Canoga Park

"We've lived and learned a painful lesson," the Rev. Jeff Fischer of Hope Chapel said outside court.

Fischer has said he and about 30 church elders knew that Ilger had molested young girls before he was hired, and restricted his church duties.

http://www.reformation.com/CSA/turner1.htm Minister admits to being ‘sex addict'

Turner had been pastor of Anchor Community Church, 38 S. Fairgreen Drive, for seven years when he was arrested last summer

D) Anaheim, CA. Anaheim pastor admitted Monday he fondled two teen-age girls 18 years ago while working as a part-time counselor at a Colorado church a decade before he was assigned to an Orange County church. "I was acting like an irresponsible teen-ager. There's no excuse for what I did," the Rev. Greg Tucker of Anaheim First Church of the Nazarene told The Orange County Register. The church settled lawsuits by two women, who said Tucker, then 22, molested them when they were 16. A Colorado jury sided with the women in a civil trial, ordering Tucker to pay the two $70,000. Tucker said he never told church leaders about the indiscretions before his ordination in Southern California seven years ago. In Colorado, sexual relations with a teen-ager were not considered criminal then, which led the women to sue for civil damages. The former youth pastor is now a senior pastor in a Nazarene Church in Anaheim, CA. The Nazarene General Superintendent's remarks about the case were very telling, i.e. "This happened a long time ago. . .the man has 'grown' since then. . . isn't the Christian faith all about forgiveness. . ."(North County Times, April 17, 2002

NEW PORT RICHEY, FL -- The mother of a 5-year-old girl has filed a lawsuit against the Gospel Outreach Church of New Port Richey,alleging that her daughter was molested because church officials failed to screen the background of a church volunteer

http://www.reformation.com/CSA/robinson1.htm

Church Youth Leader Charged In Molestation Of 13 Year Old

Reginald G. Robinson, 24, a resident of Kansas City, was charged by the Jackson County Pro-secutor on Monday, May 20, with one count of statutory rape, three counts of statutory sodomy and one count of child molestation

Pastor Frank Douglas II, pastor of Beth-Judah Ministries was unavailable for comment

22 posted on 04/27/2010 10:45:26 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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