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Sex abuse lawsuit names San Antonio archdiocese
Associated Press ^ | 4-8-10 | Michelle Roberts

Posted on 04/08/2010 11:36:45 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

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To: Natural Law
A major agenda objective of the left is the destruction of any moral authority greater than the state. This includes the family and the Church and is evidenced by policy and initiative to undermine both.

You're absolutely right. And what we have found with Ratzinger's "global authority" encyclical and with Rome's homo-centric priesthood is that the Roman Catholic church is part of that socialistic undermining of society, states and family.

Rome is not the solution; Rome is part of the problem.

The Church was similarly attacked by the Nazi's in the 1930's

Well, that's somewhat off topic, but the truth is that the Vatican cozied up to the Nazis in the '30:s and everyone but a few RC apologists knows that.

Let us not forget the menopausal dingbats

Who could forget you? You're very memorable.

new gist for your hate mill.

"The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate." -- Proverbs 8:13

321 posted on 04/12/2010 10:42:48 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Mad Dawg
This is not about truth. Look at the persistent presentation of the idea of alter Christus (which is also said in the Church’s teaching documents to refer to any baptized Christian). Then ask yourself is people who insist on getting something wrong can reasonably be thought of as caring about getting it right.

No, they would have the well deserved reputation as "Liars".

322 posted on 04/12/2010 10:43:36 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Trees aren't our "friends")
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To: conservonator

Semper fi.


323 posted on 04/12/2010 10:44:38 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Hacksaw
There is no such entity as "another Christ."

There is only one Christ who sits in heaven, having accomplished the work God gave Him of redeeming His flock.

"And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, Here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect." -- Mark 13:21-22


324 posted on 04/12/2010 10:48:43 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Running On Empty
I see no reason for this post/Scriptural quote.

Inserting ranbom blobs of scripture makes the posts more authentic, dontchaknow.

325 posted on 04/12/2010 11:39:40 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Trees aren't our "friends")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If you actually believe what you are posting you seriously need to seek some mental health professional help.

Psychosis is a symptom or feature of mental illness often characterized by a distorted or non-existent sense of objective reality. Psychosis is typically accompanied by paranoid delusional beliefs that are not backed up by reality and may remain despite obvious evidence to the contrary, and the fact that nobody else believes them to be true.

Paranoid Delusions are beliefs of a suspiscious nature, where the person believes something is not right with them, another person (i.e.; the Pope) , or the world in general (i.e.; The Catholic Church), which poses serious problems for them.

326 posted on 04/12/2010 11:54:25 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

You’re obviously writing from your own experience. I hope you’ve sought the help you offer others.


327 posted on 04/12/2010 12:04:02 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
There is no such entity as "another Christ."

Already been explained ad-nauseum. It's my opinion that you know better.

328 posted on 04/12/2010 12:19:30 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Trees aren't our "friends")
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To: Hacksaw
The verse was offered as yet another example where Roman Catholic apologists have a difficult time understanding the word of God. We are clearly told not to bow down to nor serve statues and graven images. Rome somehow hasn't gotten the memo.


329 posted on 04/12/2010 12:21:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"You’re obviously writing from your own experience."

Yes, I have known psychotic delusionals. You and your loved ones have my deepest sympathy and prayers. Recognizing this makes me take your postings in a different light and evokes only compassion.

May God heal you or at least make you happy.

330 posted on 04/12/2010 12:22:06 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Hacksaw
No amount of finagling the language can justify men calling themselves an "alter Christus."

It doesn't take a PH.D in psychology to understand the latitude such men must give themselves, and thus their arrogance as they believe they are entitled to whatever sinful past-times they desire at the expense of children's lives and faith.

Repent, Rome.

331 posted on 04/12/2010 12:25:16 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law
My family and I are quite happy. Thanks for your concern. But as usual, the Roman Catholic apologist's lack of a solid defense of their faith has now resulted in personal attacks and slander.

Creepy.

332 posted on 04/12/2010 12:27:08 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law
I have known psychotic delusionals.

That explains so much.

333 posted on 04/12/2010 12:29:25 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: caww
FTA: "The lawsuit accuses the Rev. John M. Fiala of repeatedly sexually assaulting the teen, including twice forcing him to have sex at gunpoint...in 2007 and 2008... Fiala has not been charged."

Here's one thing that jumped out at me: a teen says a priest forced him to have sex at gunpoint, twice, a relatively short time ago (within the statute of limitations), and he never told anyone? Apparently went back to the priest repeatedly? Never called the cops? never brought criminal charges? And still is not charging the priest?

But now that the Archbishop is in the news, he's going to sue the Archbishop?

Can someone explain that part?


On the issue of the priest being "alter Cristus" --- that applies in important ways to all of us, since by Baptism we can say with St. Paul " I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me." (Galatians 2:20) And again, "for we are members of His body." (Ephesians 5:30)

When a priest is minister of a Sacrament, he does it not with his own power, but by the power of Christ --- just as St. Peter healed people in the book of Acts, not by "Peter's power," but by Christ's power.

Any Catholic -- any Christian--- knows that.

334 posted on 04/12/2010 12:38:10 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God our Savior's will that all men be saved, and come to a knowledge of the truth." 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: marshmallow
(Sigh.) Thank you, marshmallow. I have posted this graph as well, and it should be posted in in every thread.

See also mine at #334.

335 posted on 04/12/2010 12:43:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God our Savior's will that all men be saved, and come to a knowledge of the truth." 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I've posted it several times recently and the response has been uniformly hostile. Many are unaware of its existence and have somehow gained the impression, probably from current media coverage, that this is an escalating problem which is raging unabated. They have no concept that recent cases have slowed to a trickle and are nothing like as frequent as 2-3 decades ago.

Others get on a tear about the Church not doing enough and when confronted with hard numbers, become highly defensive and post a link to some recent case to show that it is still occurring when nobody is denying that it isn't. Still others will say it's not representative of the universal Church while the truly obstinate will say "oh so there are fewer cases than before.....big deal!!"

IOW, they'll say anything, rather than admit that things are improving.

I've outed a number of trolls masquerading as "truly concerned bystanders" with this graph.

336 posted on 04/12/2010 1:17:09 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Dominus et Pax Vobiscum


337 posted on 04/12/2010 1:33:44 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: marshmallow
The other things that's outstanding in this case is that the accused priest (I say "accused," though he has not in fact been accused and brought to trial for sexual abuse) was a member of a religious order, "The Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity." So the Archdiocese didn't in fact have oversight or supervision over this priest: hhe Archbishop wasn't even his religious suprior.

So why doesn't the victim bring charges against the priest? Or against the priest's religious order? Or against the Texas Highway Patrol? Or the gun manufacturer? Or --- hey, George Bush lives in Texas...

And the victim says he kept going back every two weeks, for two years...

We'll have to wait until more information comes out, of course, but per the information in this article, it certainly doesn't pass the smell test.

338 posted on 04/12/2010 1:37:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Calvinball: #1 You never play it the same way twice. #2 You make up the rules as you go along.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Religion Moderator
No, I do not. If I did, I would have had many posts pulled, but I haven't.

YOU brought the subject up, so here is my reply; I recall the FACT that late one night you had 10 posts pulled. Furthermore, you have had other posts pulled. I remember, even if you do not. I also recall that the RM has cautioned you a number of times against making things personal, whether the offending post was pulled or not.

And here, you are making the thread about YOU. It is against the rules to make a RF thread about any individual FReeper.

339 posted on 04/12/2010 2:39:52 PM PDT by Judith Anne (2012 Sarah Palin/Duncan Hunter 2012)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

.....”he never told anyone”....

Well if you are aware of anyone who has been assulted or raped under threat it is quite common NOT to tell... Let alone a Priest hiding behind the cloak of a religious leader who holds power in the church. Additionally kids are taught homosexual behavior is ok in our schools, so can you imagine the confusion a kid would be in. Come on it’s really not hard to understand at all.


340 posted on 04/12/2010 3:12:32 PM PDT by caww
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