The Lds Church at one time did use wine vs. water for communion. In fact, the Lds church office in St. George even had a "wine office" in the 1890s & set up its own wine press. Here's the way George Givens wrote about it:
"By 1890 the Church in St. George realized it had made a big mistake in accepting wine and grapes in its tithing office. In fact, there were so many grapes that the wine office set up its own press and became the chief single producer of wine in the Dixie area. [Dixie = Southern Utah] In spite of Brigham's advice to trade the wine out of the community, the St. George brethren drank so much of their wine that drunkeness became a concern among its leaders. The solution was to stop accepting wine as tithing and to abandon its own presses. It took a while, but by 1900 grape growers had gone out of the business and not drinking wine part of the Word of Wisdom in St. George." (Givens, 500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, p. 190)
We realize that (1) stick around long enough, and Mormon theology & Mormon practices will change...(the "Word of Wisdom" has been very "bendable"...what's been "wise" in some eras, apparently not so "wise" in others...);
and (2) It's frankly a sad state of commentary when the church had to boot wine out of communion simply because those Mormons with access to church-produced wine in St. George were getting drunk. The drunkards were dictating communion policy to the church!!!
Thanks for posting that, I remember that the D&C said they used wine but I forgot why they went to water.
Well that was enlightening. It’s intereting to know that thanks to a bunch of wino Mormons, I cannot buy a bottle of wine at the grocery store here in Utah. It’ very annoying. Good thing I have AF base access so I can even buy wine and booze on SUNDAY, BWAAAA HA HA HA!
By 1890 the Church in St. George realized it had made a big mistake in accepting wine and grapes in its tithing office.
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In SLC Brigham Young accepted a black slave as a tithe...
His name was Green flakes and he was brought to Utah by his “owners”
he actually drove the carriage Brigham Young travelled in ...
So BY knew there were slaves in his theocracy...
After a few years his “massa” died so the widow gave him as her tithe to the mormon corporation...
BY didnt say no...
Later he escaped into California...