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Holding Aaronic Priesthood is an extraordinary privilege - Mormon (Open)
Mormon Times ^ | 3/14/10 | Kristine Frederickson

Posted on 03/17/2010 2:50:32 PM PDT by reaganaut

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To: Elsie

Thanks for that updated list, Elsie...I’ve saved it for future use.


221 posted on 03/18/2010 7:50:45 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: Normandy; reaganaut; ejonesie22
When I first came across Mormonism I was thrilled to know that God hadn’t ceased giving us revelation.

I was thrilled


222 posted on 03/18/2010 7:57:53 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: magritte; Ruy Dias de Bivar
"lines are passed through the male only (at the time of Jesus, this tradition is an indisputable fact)

Indisputable fact? Not only redundant but false.

There are two exceptions to the inheritance rule in biblical times: If a man has no sons, his daughters are to inherit, but they must marry a man of their own tribe so that the wealth stays "in the family".

The geneology of Jesus in the gospel of Luke is diffrent than that in Matthew because it is the geneology of Mary's line.

Mary had no brothers so she inherited her father's wealth and married Joseph, also of her tribe (Judah).

There is not Greek word for "son-in-law"". For all intents and purposes, Joseph became the son of Heli, Mary's father, and the line is then traced back to David.

Thats Jesus came from the line of David is prophecied in the Old Testament so here we see that not only "legally" (by being the adopted son of Joseph), but but blood (thru the line of Mary), Jesus is indeed from David's line.

223 posted on 03/18/2010 7:59:59 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Logophile; greyfoxx39
So, Lucifer wants us to pray to God to know the truth?

Yes, a false God. The finite, ex-human god of the Mormons. He'll fix you right up while Satan laughs with delight.

224 posted on 03/18/2010 8:01:49 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: genetic homophobe; reaganaut; 999replies
You make a valid point, 999 posting are of a different nature than our other “friends".

I also find that even the most Conservative of folks have joined the Oprah Winfrey school of Christian thought when it comes to defending the faith. Conflict is distasteful in the current go along to get along mind set we are enduring. This too shall pass and fads do not change universal truths or directives, in this case that we are charged with defending our faith and even more so our brother Christ from those who oppose or distort his mission and Church for their, or the Evil one’s, ends.

At some point in time the reality of what the LDS stands for sinks in and even the most agreeable Christian, finally realizing exactly what stories and slander they are saying about our most precious family member, finally has enough.

225 posted on 03/18/2010 8:02:33 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: magritte

Have you read the Old Testament prophecies of the coming Messiah? There are about 300.


226 posted on 03/18/2010 8:02:42 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Normandy
Actually, I find that gospel Latter-day Saints teach and believe in harmony with the one that Jesus and His Apostles taught in the New Testament

Which new testament? The one that has passed virtually intact to us through 2000+ years or the "restored" one that Joseph Smith cobbled together?

It's a trick question of course because I know the lDS teach that the Jesus and the apostles had the Mormon scriptures in their hands and that the Christians twisted it around and lost part of it.

Thus it needed to be restored.

227 posted on 03/18/2010 8:07:03 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: SkyDancer
Apparently intelligence does not provide a shield against the deceit of Satan. I think God planned it that way. We are never smart enough to do it on our own, but we can be so smart we THINK we can.

I never read anywhere in the bible where Jesus told us that we should cultivate smarts or pray for more brains.

Just truth.

228 posted on 03/18/2010 8:10:16 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: svcw; Logophile

Let’s talk about what’s inside the Hill Cumorah.


229 posted on 03/18/2010 8:11:52 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Logophile; Godzilla; reaganaut
You are kidding, right?

Fox watching hen house is not a valid scholarly methodology.

Where are the peer reviews by independent sources.

This should easy if LDS/BYU scholarship is valid.

Upon publication of their “discoveries” the independent scientific community would want to validate the findings and further the research.

Where is that exactly?

230 posted on 03/18/2010 8:13:39 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: T Minus Four

Which one...


231 posted on 03/18/2010 8:13:54 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: T Minus Four

I think that it was Paul writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit warned us to test everything, hold fast to that which is true and beware of (Satan) preachers dressed in wolf’s clothing seeking to devour those people with itchy ears wanting to believe what they say... only thing we can do is pray for those people caught up in cults like LDS and JW’s .....


232 posted on 03/18/2010 8:14:22 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Normandy
We have the Bible as evidence that he has done that in the past and I personally don’t think it makes sense to assume that all his revealing is over and done with.

Jesus said: "It is finished"

But if you don't think it was enough, keep looking.

233 posted on 03/18/2010 8:16:00 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: SkyDancer

For some reason, when to spiritual matters, even the most brilliant folk seem to get a little “touched”...


234 posted on 03/18/2010 8:16:31 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: T Minus Four
Apparently intelligence does not provide a shield against the deceit of Satan. I think God planned it that way. We are never smart enough to do it on our own, but we can be so smart we THINK we can.

When I was mormon, this saying was heard often..."The glory of God is intelligence"...Doctrine and Covenants 93:36

Funny, I haven't run across that statement in all my research for a long time.

235 posted on 03/18/2010 8:18:46 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: SkyDancer

Amen


236 posted on 03/18/2010 8:18:47 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: ejonesie22

There is more than one Hill Cumorah?


237 posted on 03/18/2010 8:19:40 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: magritte

***Mary’s lineage is irrelevant in these regards...***

Well it can’t be through Joseph (by way of Solomon) as the scripture says no son of Jechonias would ever sit on the throne of David.

That leaves Mary, the daughter of Heli by way of Nathan.


238 posted on 03/18/2010 8:25:36 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (If I say to you "I'm your friend" ....RUN!)
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To: T Minus Four

The is the “real” one and several “theortical” ones...

Cumorah (also called Mormon Hill) is a drumlin near Manchester, New York, where Joseph Smith, Jr. said he found a set of golden plates which he translated and published as the Book of Mormon. In the text of the Book of Mormon, “Cumorah” (originally Camorah,1830 edition) is a land situated in “a land of many waters, rivers and fountains”.[1] In this land, one hill is named the “hill Cumorah”. The Book of Mormon describes the hill Cumorah as a place where two hundred thirty thousand Nephite soldiers were killed in a final battle with the Lamanites,[2] and where centuries earlier, the last battle of the Jaredites took place, which destroyed their civilization. The hill “Cumorah” (its Nephite name) was previously called the hill Ramah by the Jaredites.[3]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church)—the largest of the Latter Day Saint churches that use the Book of Mormon—has no official position on the geography of the Book of Mormon, nor is there currently any official claim of correspondence between the hill mentioned in the Book of Mormon and the hill in New York.[4] Numerous LDS Church authorities have, in the past, indicated that Cumorah of the Book of Mormon resides in the Finger Lakes region of western New York.[5] It has been argued that LDS scripture also locates Cumorah in this region.[6] In an 1842 letter to the Church that has been canonized into LDS Church scripture, Joseph Smith stated that the church had received, “the gospel … truth out of the earth … glad tidings from Cumorah”.[7] Smith did not specifically refer to the Hill Cumorah in this letter.[8]

In the 20th century, scholars from the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS Church) and later the LDS Church speculated that the Book of Mormon’s Hill Cumorah is in southern Mexico, Central America or South America.[9] This hypothesis has been controversial and has been opposed by some leaders and members of the church[10] but embraced by others.[11]

Some mainstream scholars who specialize in 19th-century American literature place the original literary setting for the Book of Mormon among the mythic mound builder people of North America.[12] Accepting the mound-builder setting, at least one LDS researcher has pointed out that no proposed Central or South American setting for the Book of Mormon is likely to be accepted by mainstream academia as a legitimate representation.[13]


239 posted on 03/18/2010 8:31:28 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: ejonesie22
Hee's what I know about it:

Moroni was the lone survivor (according to Smith’s alleged translation) of the Nephites Indian tribe that was destroyed by the Lamanites at Hill Cumorah, near Palmyra, New York, in a tremendous battle, during which hundreds of thousands were slain with the sword. (B.O.M. Mormon 6:11,12,13)

No artifacts, or any evidence that such a battle took place at this location have ever been found. This is one of the fantasies written in the "Book of Mormon," which the Church Authorities teach as true and authentic history.

It's funny how the LDS have refused to allow archeologists to examine the evidence of such a mighty battle that must surely be there. What further proof would one need to substantiate all JS's claims?

240 posted on 03/18/2010 8:38:25 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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