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To: ensignbay; Hootowl

When you get down to it, Mormons don’t even believe in the Book of Mormon. They believe in Doctrine and Covenants. The Book of Mormon contradicts much of Mormonism’s theology. [hootowl]

Hootowl, what are even talking about? Either you’re joking or completely uninformed. [EB]

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Hoot is completely correct. The BoM is claimed to be the ‘fullness of the everlasting gospel’, yet many core LDS doctrines (exaltation, temple rituals, garments, etc) are found in the D&C, NOT the BoM.

The BoM also teaches the Trinity and praying to Christ.

And yes, I can provide sources. :)

I am always amazed at the LDS who think they can get buy with “we don’t believe that” in the information age when everything is available online.


26 posted on 03/16/2010 11:29:35 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
That is something I found ironic. After my exchange the past few days with another LDS poster who shall gladly remain nameless for his disgusting deeds, I went back and pulled out my hard copy of the BOM, the one I was once sent.

I re-read anew through several sections and it is clearly trinitiarian in aspect and approach, even more clearly that the Bible in some ways.

Of course as the LDS con was developed and the power of promising godhood as a sales tool became apparent, that all had to be kicked to the curb, which in this case means using the old tried and true Pee Wee Herman "No I didn't" methodology which is standard LDS SOP.

34 posted on 03/16/2010 11:43:19 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: reaganaut

According to Mormon Doctrine, Heaven consists of three levels or “glories.” (D&C 76:31-39) The Book of Mormon says there are only two possible fates after death: heaven or hell. Levels or degrees of heaven are not mentioned.

According to Mormon Doctrine, Jesus and God the Father are separate beings. (D&C 130:22) The Book of Mormon says Jesus and God the Father are the same. (Mosiah 3:8, 15:1-5, Ether 4:7, 12)

According to Mormon Doctrine, God has a body of flesh and bones. (D&C 130:22) The Book of Mormon says God is a spirit. (Alma 18:26-28)

According to Mormon Doctrine, God was once a man like us, and progressed to godhood. (TJS 342-345) The Book of Mormon says God does not change and has never changed. (Mormon 9:9, Moroni 8:18)

According to Mormon Doctrine, there are many gods. (TJS 370-373) The Book of Mormon says there is only one God. (Alma 11:28-30)

According to Mormon Doctrine, we can become gods ourselves. (D&C 76:58, TJS 342-345) The Book of Mormon says nothing of this idea.

According to Mormon Doctrine, we lived with God in a spirit world (a “premortal existence”) before being born into this life. (D&C 49:17, 93:23-29, 138:55-56) The Book of Mormon says nothing of this idea.

According to Mormon Doctrine, God is the literal father of our spirits, conceived by him and our “Mother in Heaven” (MD 516) The Book of Mormon says nothing of this idea.

According to Mormon Doctrine, Mary conceived Jesus by natural means, namely, God the Father impregnated her. (MD 546-47, JoD 1:50-51, 8:115, 11:268) The Book of Mormon says Mary conceived Jesus “by the power of the Holy Ghost” (Alma 7:10), by being “carried away in the spirit” (1 Nephi 11:15-19)

According to Mormon Doctrine, those who do not accept the gospel in this life will have the opportunity to do so after death, and can receive baptism by proxy (D&C 127, 128) The Book of Mormon says salvation must be attained in this life; after one dies it is too late (Alma 34:34, 2 Nephi 9:38, Mosiah 2:36-39). No mention of baptism for the dead.

According to Mormon Doctrine, David and Solomon did nothing wrong by having many wives. (D&C 132:38-39) The Book of Mormon says the polygamy of David and Solomon was “abominable” to the Lord (Jacob 2:24)

According to Mormon Doctrine, the Priesthood divided into an upper (” after the order of Melchizedek”) and lower (”Aaronic”) priesthood. The Book of Mormon says there is no distinction between “priests” and “high priests”; priesthood is “after the order of [the Son of] God” (Alma 4:20, 13:1-12). There is no mention of “Aaronic” priesthood.

According to Mormon Doctrine, salvation in the highest heaven (”exaltation”) requires undergoing the “endowment” initiation ceremony in a temple, the details of which are kept strictly secret. The participants are required to take numerous oaths, which are also secret. The Book of Mormon condemns “secret combinations” requiring secret oaths. (Mormon 8:27, 40, 2 Nephi 26:22, Helaman 6:22, and many others.) There is no mention of any such ritual as part of the gospel and no mention of “exaltation” or “endowment.”

According to Mormon Doctrine, exaltation requires marriage in a Mormon temple. (D&C 131:1-4) The Book of Mormon says nothing of this doctrine.

According to Mormon Doctrine, “celestial marriage” lasts for time and all eternity. (DoS 2:58 ff) The Book of Mormon says nothing of this doctrine.

According to Mormon Doctrine, the “first resurrection” is only for the righteous. (D&C 76:64. 63:18) The Book of Mormon says the “first resurrection” is for all who died before Christ’s resurrection, righteous and unrighteous alike (Mosiah 15:24, Alma 40:16-17)

According to Mormon Doctrine, the “idea that the Father and the Son dwell in a man’s heart” is false. (D&C 130:31; verse 22 says that it is the Holy Ghost that “dwell[s] in us”) The Book of Mormon says “The Lord” dwells in the hearts of the righteous. (Alma 34:36)

According to Mormon Doctrine, the Lord’s Supper (”the sacrament”) consists of bread and water. The Book of Mormon says the Lord’s Supper should consist of bread and wine. (3 Nephi 18:1-9, Moroni 5)

According to Mormon Doctrine, only the priest blessing the sacrament kneels. The Book of Mormon says the priest is to kneel with the church while blessing the sacrament. (Moroni 4:2; see also D&C 20:76)

According to Mormon Doctrine, use of alcohol, coffee, tea (”hot drinks”) is forbidden. (D&C 89) The Book of Mormon has no such commandment.

According to Mormon Doctrine, the church is governed by the three men of the “First Presidency,” higher in authority than the Quorum of Twelve. The Book of Mormon says Jesus placed twelve disciples over the church he founded in America. (3 Nephi 12, passim) No “first presidency” mentioned.

According to Mormon Doctrine, except for Joseph Smith, all prophets are promoted to that office by those above them in rank, and by seniority. They work their way up to the top. The Book of Mormon says prophets are called directly by God.

According to Mormon Doctrine, faith, repentance, baptism are the “first principles” of the gospel, but that in order to obtain the highest degree of heaven, much more is required (obedience, tithes, endowment, etc.) The Book of Mormon says that the gospel is faith, repentance, and baptism ONLY. Any teaching beyond that will lead to hell 3 Nephi 11:31-40


66 posted on 03/16/2010 12:17:08 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: reaganaut
 
When you get down to it, Mormons don’t even believe in the Book of Mormon.
 
 
 
It is because one CANNOT find, in the Book of MORMON, the Restored Gospel; unlike what this plaque so boldly proclaims.
 
 
 
 
 
  

239 posted on 03/16/2010 6:29:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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