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Are Anti-Mormons Christians?
FAIR ^ | Russell McGregor

Posted on 03/16/2010 10:51:13 AM PDT by Paragon Defender

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To: svcw

For some people, any perceived slight against Mormons is “persecution”. Looking at them cross eyed would count for some.

Mommmm, make him stop looking at meeee......


301 posted on 03/16/2010 8:38:26 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Andyman

SELAH!


302 posted on 03/16/2010 8:39:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: RaceBannon
*Now where did I put that link to the hammer hitting the nail on the head?*
303 posted on 03/16/2010 8:41:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: metmom

Oh, man its like driving with the grandchildren........smack waaaaa. Ok what happened? I hit him because I thought he was going to hit me.


304 posted on 03/16/2010 8:50:35 PM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: FatherofFive
Yes, the Church will always teach the truth .. as long as it is the true church of Jesus Christ. But The Catholic Church quickly went its own way, inventing its own doctrines**. The Protestants recognized this, but are no better off, foundering around in their own little universes.

**How quickly it started. As Paul wrote to the Galatians 1:6-8 "I marvel that you are so soon removed from him who called you into the Gospel of Christ unto another Gospel; which is not another but there be some who would trouble you and pervert the Gospel of Christ"

and Paul to Timothy: (2 Tim 4:3-4)"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears..And they shall turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned unto fables."

305 posted on 03/16/2010 8:52:53 PM PDT by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps <-- or, "corpse" as Zero puts it..)
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To: Zman516; FatherofFive

Yes, the Church will always teach the truth .. as long as it is the true church of Jesus Christ

- - - - - -
Then how do you explain the lies of your (LDS) church?

The LDS church has less of a claim of being a ‘restored’ church than the RC church has a claim of being the original church.

And, no, I am NOT Catholic, nor a Protestant.


306 posted on 03/16/2010 9:00:50 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: metmom

ROFL.


307 posted on 03/16/2010 9:02:01 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Actually, the ROCk in this, was the TRUTH that Peter spoke, that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God

not that Peter was THE ROCK

Peter is a man, and a man that Jesus called Satan just after he spoke that truth


308 posted on 03/16/2010 9:46:34 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS AND TRAITORS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon

You are correct Peter is not the Rock but neither is the principle of revelation, which is how the LDS interpret it.

The truth Peter spoke is the foundation of the Body of Christ, the Church universal.


309 posted on 03/16/2010 9:57:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: greyfoxx39; Paragon Defender; MHGinTN; 999replies; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; ...

great read. I am going to read it again tomorrow. Very interesting.

Thank you.


310 posted on 03/16/2010 10:38:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: 999replies; ejonesie22
Please give us a hug and explain why we shouldn't discuss the differences between doctrine, attempt to engage in discussion with LDS(mostly futile) or exhort others to look, realistically, at what their church is saying, their history and contrived conveniences.

They after all spend day and night looking for new converts, within mainstream Christianity, calling us “Apostates”, “Whores of Babylon” and coning people with contrived constructs that “answer the question you should have asked” or “ignoring subjects of substance in the discussion and answering non-sequitors”.

Further, they hold the Bible, certain parts, as foundation to their belief, while claiming it is a flawed book and theirs, when convenient completes God's word.

They are, in fact, selling a lie and they know it. Otherwise, why obfuscate, avoid or deny truths about their belief system?

See they will feign insult but their very Student manuals explain the differences, so why can't they acknowledge such?

Why can't they explain the duplicitous nature of their doctrine such as people of color may receive the Priesthood here on earth but, they cannot enter into the Priesthood in their celestial kingdom?

Why can't they offer a reasonable explanation for why plural marriages are forbidden in LDS, except where it is not illegal or where it is tolerated/accepted?

Why can't they explain the rationale of a woman being passed around in plural marriage, in their celestial kingdom yet, it is not “approved” her on earth?

Are women chattel in the spirit world? Why?

There are many other questions but they won't discuss them to disabuse us of our skepticism or incorrect perception based on facts we have, with their fact of opposition and writ of explanation?

How is the church growing by making coffee can conversions, praying for the dead, while still discussing Agency and Free Will?

In short, they are gaining new converts among Christians and mostly in areas where learning is subsumed to survival and resulting an illiterate audience who has no possibility of reading and checking veracity. They can only accept what is told them and hope the speaker or salesman is telling them the truth.

They have no voice and we are their advocates.

311 posted on 03/16/2010 10:57:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: stinkerpot65; ensignbay
The whole premise of your belief is that “The Church of Jesus Christ Latter Saints is the one true church” or “Some religions are more perfect than others”.

Joseph Smith and Brigham Young proclaimed all other religions abominations, Apostates and Whores of Babylon.

So in regards to being Non-Christians, are not the efforts of the LDS to evangelize Christians a defacto statement that you do not consider us Christians, under your definition?

Isn't being Christian or Christian Lite a relatively new phenomenon of LDS?

312 posted on 03/16/2010 11:03:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: JAKraig; colorcountry

All that is fine but LDS proclaims they are the one true church. How can that be?


313 posted on 03/16/2010 11:05:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: 999replies
You sound like a small child throwing a tantrum.

That was II's quote.

314 posted on 03/17/2010 3:40:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Hey a single sentence. Nice. Reading comprehension? "seem"?

You SEEM to be a bit MORMON apologetics challenged.

Would you like a list of official MORMON websites to use?

FARMS and FAIRLDS have disclaimers that they are NOT Official Mormon Websites (OMS).

315 posted on 03/17/2010 3:43:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
How come Joey Smith never saw this day ???

Hell!

He never even saw his LAST day!


JESUS: Hey Smith!
Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

JESUS: That's it.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: Nah - it was right.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

JESUS: What did you say?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

JESUS: No...

JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

JESUS: Nope.

JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: No; it wasn't.

JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly Facebook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

JOSEPH SMITH: But....

316 posted on 03/17/2010 4:08:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw

THAT’s not a knife!

Crocodile Dundee


317 posted on 03/17/2010 4:09:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RaceBannon

Pride goeth before a fall.


318 posted on 03/17/2010 4:11:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vendome
They can only accept what is told them and hope the speaker or salesman is telling them the truth.

And THAT is why the Bereans checked the SCRIPTURES daily to see if what they were being told matched up to what was WRITTEN.


http://www.icr.org/article/be-berean/

319 posted on 03/17/2010 4:15:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
And yet you appear to have read this far!

Wrong again honey! Not one word.

I just found myself forced to scroll past your way-too-long post by simply browsing the "latest comments"

And I'll bet you have several of those way-too-long posts elsewhere in this thread and many others.

A total waste of time and bandwidth.

320 posted on 03/17/2010 4:33:22 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Deathcare, a solution desperately looking for a problem.)
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