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To: urroner; Normandy; colorcountry
I'm not looking for what you believe, or an admission that you're "going to judge me", I'm looking for an explanation. You have denied, obfuscated and danced around the "sons of perdition" claims. It's time to answer the questions.

Normandy:

To provide a broader context for quotation for Joseph Smith:

“What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against Him. After a man has sinned against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentance for him. He has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it; and from that time he begins to be an enemy. This is the case with many apostates of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

When a man begins to be an enemy to this work, he hunts me, he seeks to kill me, and never ceases to thirst for my blood. He gets the spirit of the devil—the same spirit that they had who crucified the Lord of Life—the same spirit that sins against the Holy Ghost . . .”

(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 358)

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SZ:

"The only group not covered are the people who left Mormonism. Once professing belief in the Mormon doctrine, they subsequently rejected Mormonism. They are called apostates or sons of perdition. They too will be resurrected but many, if not all, will be sent to Outer Darkness. (Outer Darkness is the name Mormonism gives to the domain of Satan and his legions.)

These apostates are the only people sent to eternal existence with the devil. In speaking of Outer Darkness, the original Mormon prophet Joseph Smith said “This is the case with many apostates of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” (quoted in Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual, p. 358).

Norm, your quote doesn't address what is being said here. Apostates are doomed to outer darkness. You both claimed this isn't accurate. What is not accurate about this? I see how it could be expounding and clarifying what JS meant in your quotation, but see nothing inaccurate about this.

The important thing to note here is that my quote is specifically referencing Mormon Doctrine, while you are using one that references denying Christ. Big differences there Norm.

899 posted on 03/24/2010 5:16:46 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: SZonian

SZonian,

You provide this quotation which comes from an anti-mormonism site:

The only group not covered are the people who left Mormonism. Once professing belief in the Mormon doctrine, they subsequently rejected Mormonism. They are called apostates or sons of perdition. They too will be resurrected but many, if not all, will be sent to Outer Darkness. (Outer Darkness is the name Mormonism gives to the domain of Satan and his legions.) These apostates are the only people sent to eternal existence with the devil. In speaking of Outer Darkness, the original Mormon prophet Joseph Smith said “This is the case with many apostates of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” (quoted in Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual, p. 358).

http://www.truthinlovetomormons.com/basic_mormon_doctrine/doctrine/chrono/judgment.htm

The only part of that quotation that comes from a Latter-day Saint source are the words quoted of Joseph Smith - which I have presented in their full context in an earlier post on this thread.

As I have said before, leaving Mormonism does not make you a Son of Perdition.


900 posted on 03/24/2010 6:53:26 AM PDT by Normandy
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